Thread: LRO images

Every Apollo landing site has now been imaged at least once by LRO, the recently launched Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter mission which is busily taking very highly detailed images of the lunar surface.

Here is the Apollo 15 site:


Link: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LR...lo15-LRRR.html

From the website (caption):

The Apollo 15 Lunar Laser Ranging RetroReflector (LRRR) array is one of four such working arrays on the surface of the Moon. As the largest (105 x 65 cm in size) it serves as the primary target for laser ranging to the Moon. In this calibrated image it appears as the (circled) tiny white rectangular feature farthest to center left (near the edge of the original NAC image). The distance to these retroreflectors from the Earth can be and is still routinely measured to the centimeter level or better, and their relative positions are known to a similar level. Such measurements can be used for several purposes, such as precisely determining the orientation and orbit of the Moon, testing gravitation and general relativity theories, and for establishing a highly precise latitude and longitude coordinate frame for the Moon. The image width is 391 meters, with a pixel width of 52 cm. Credit: NASA/GSFC/Arizona State University

Larger image: http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/4...15_LRRR_HI.jpg

From the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal:

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/a15.html

"At the ALSEP site, Dave borrows Jim's camera to take pictures of the LRRR deployment."

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-85-11468HR.jpg
^ caption reads: "125:33:21 Dave took this cross-Sun from the south of the LRRR, showing the orientation gnomon and bubble level. The LRRR, reflects laser pulses back to the telescopes on Earth used to illuminate it. By measuring the two-way travel time between the telescope and the LRRR, experiments can determine the distance between the two to a few centimeters and address such issues as Einstein's Theory of General Relativity and the existence of a liquid lunar core. As of February 2005, the retroreflectors deployed on Apollos 11, 14, and 15 were still being used in conjunction with a dedicated facility at the MacDondald Observatory in Texas."

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Now, if you happen to have access to the right equipment, you can point it at that location on the lunar surface and make use of that LRRR. This is easily verifiable, and obviously very well documented as having been deployed during the Apollo 15 mission.

When conspiracists attack the moon landings, they are attacking something they understand nothing about.

Wait, let me try my hand at moon-landing conspiracy stupidity:

It's all Photoshop. And the mirrors aren't on the moon; they're on stealth satellites in geostationary orbit between here and the moon, to fool astronomers into thinking we landed on the moon.

There's probably nanothermite involved somehow.

Evidence? I don't need evidence! I'm a conspiracy theorist! You must disprove my every random utterance, or my point stands!

Originally Posted by raytri

Wait, let me try my hand at moon-landing conspiracy stupidity:

It's all Photoshop. And the mirrors aren't on the moon; they're on stealth satellites in geostationary orbit between here and the moon, to fool astronomers into thinking we landed on the moon.

There's probably nanothermite involved somehow.

Evidence? I don't need evidence! I'm a conspiracy theorist! You must disprove my every random utterance, or my point stands!

It's a start, but you have to claim that your utterances and Jarrah White videos are conclusive, irrefutable evidence

Nano-thermite.. Hehe! I think they used that on the set to simulate the moon dust.

Pictures are fakable so they don't prove there were people on the moon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRE7grId3sI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKj5fckUX-c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc2kijG8YdY

Mirrors on the moon don't prove there were people on the moon either as they can be attached to the sides of remotely-controlled unmanned craft.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo9geIwWTGQ
(1:16:10 time mark)

If the Surveyor program was real, we know they had that technology back then.

There's a mountain of proof that they faked the missions and a few fakable pictures don't make that proof go away.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...64&postcount=1

Originally Posted by Scott

Pictures are fakable so they don't prove there were people on the moon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRE7grId3sI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKj5fckUX-c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc2kijG8YdY

Mirrors on the moon don't prove there were people on the moon either as they can be attached to the sides of remotely-controlled unmanned craft.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo9geIwWTGQ
(1:16:10 time mark)

If the Surveyor program was real, we know they had that technology back then.

There's a mountain of proof that they faked the missions and a few fakable pictures don't make that proof go away.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...64&postcount=1

Hey! I'm good! I got it almost exactly right!

Originally Posted by Scott

There's a mountain of proof that they faked the missions

Actually, there's a mountain of silly claims that don't hold water, and the people making them are biased against the truth.

As with evolution, the evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of all Apollo missions being genuine. You simply choose to believe in the hoax and accept what hoax supporters claim without question, while rejecting the evidence against the hoax claims out of hand.

I agree that the photographs alone don't "prove" that the moon landings were genuine, but they certainly lend a great deal of credence to it. Just look at how you've been clinging to some silly idea of sand being used in the trench and where astronauts were kicking the regolith around on video in order to maintain your hoax belief! It's one of the most absurd things I've heard, and that is certainly saying something! It's flat out wrong, as evidenced by photos and video I've posted in the other thread. So again:

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-92-12439HR.jpg
^ Trench. You can see that, as with the boot prints EVERYWHERE, it holds its shape and appears very fine-grained. Every single photograph is consistent in this and with what the video shows.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-92-12440HR.jpg

Be objective! Be honest with yourself.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-92-12441HR.jpg
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-92-12442HR.jpg