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  1. Default Air caused the flag to move so it was obviously in a studio.

    The flag anomaly closes the whole case by itself. It's simply too clear to obfuscate.

    At the 2:36 time mark of this video...


    "Apollo 15 flag, facing air resistance; proving the fraud of alleged manned moon landings."
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn6MTrin5eU

    Apollo 15 flag waving
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymwE1sNm82Y

    (two links to the same video in case one goes off-line)


    ...the flag starts to move when the astronaut trots by it.

    This video shows that it started moving before he got close enough to touch it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0

    Air made it move. They were in a studio.


    This video shows that the flag movement is consistent with atmosphere.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yc2rVOs00
    (00:50 and 1:50 time marks)

    So does this one.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgUncG26MMA
    (18:50 time mark)


    Here's some other stuff about the flag.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzk6H4voUGo
    http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...lags+Are+Alive
    http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...he+Dead+Horses

    There's a mountain of other proof that the missions were faked.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-l...ed-studio.html

    All of the Apollo footage was taken in a studio. The footage is full of anomalies.

    "The Apollo Moon Landings by Marcus Allen"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVR2WTK20Ig

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    The flag anomaly closes the whole case by itself. It's simply too clear to obfuscate.

    At the 2:36 time mark of this video...


    "Apollo 15 flag, facing air resistance; proving the fraud of alleged manned moon landings."
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn6MTrin5eU

    Apollo 15 flag waving
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymwE1sNm82Y

    (two links to the same video in case one goes off-line)


    ...the flag starts to move when the astronaut trots by it.

    This video shows that it started moving before he got close enough to touch it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0

    Air made it move. They were in a studio.


    This video shows that the flag movement is consistent with atmosphere.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yc2rVOs00
    (00:50 and 1:50 time marks)

    So does this one.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgUncG26MMA
    (18:50 time mark)

    Here's some other stuff about the flag.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzk6H4voUGo
    http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...lags+Are+Alive
    http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...he+Dead+Horses

    There's a mountain of other proof that the missions were faked.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-l...ed-studio.html

    All of the Apollo footage was taken in a studio. The footage is full of anomalies.

    "The Apollo Moon Landings by Marcus Allen"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVR2WTK20Ig
    no air 'moved' the flag,it would have 'flapped' in any breeze

    the flag was jostled
    keep up the spam though,it's funny as hell!
    Out to the road,out 'neath the stars,feelin' the breeze,passing the cars.....

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    Oh boy, another Grassy Knoller! Maybe God farted and THAT made the flag move?
    " A Federalist lady...so terrified of what would happen to the family Bible if Jefferson became president ... took it to the only Jeffersonian she knew and asked him to hide it for her....

    '... he finally said, 'if all the Bibles are to be destroyed, what is the use of bringing yours to me? ....'

    She replied, 'It will be perfectly safe with you. They'll never think of looking in the house of a Democrat for a Bible'.
    " (Willard Sterne Randall - Thomas Jefferson a Life -1993 p. 543)

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    "It should be clear by now to everyone that activist environmentalism (or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans, about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual as the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a noble idea." ~ Vaclav Klaus, former President of the Czech Republic

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    Hey Hoosier8

    You seem to think that pictures aren't fakable. Am I right? Do you think that pictures aren't fakable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    Hey Hoosier8

    You seem to think that pictures aren't fakable. Am I right? Do you think that pictures aren't fakable?
    You are simply unaware of the process involved in receiving and building the pictures taken by the LROC camera. The files that contain the Apollo hardware are part of transmissions received by Arizona State University amounting to nearly 300Gb every day. When extracted and prepared, these TIF images are approximately 200mb in size. To invisibly insert the Apollo hardware without a photogrammetry expert detecting variances in pixel coloration, variances in compression from the original to name just two obvious changes - is impossible. There are literally hundreds of images that contain Apollo hardware and the number goes up every day as the LROC continues to capture images. Once again your simplistic understanding and blinkered claims leave you with nothing but a strawman statement.

    Prove they were faked - you cannot and will not. I expect you will make your standard response of relying on the 'flag anomalies' to dismiss everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    The flag anomaly closes the whole case by itself. It's simply too clear to obfuscate.
    It closes nothing at all. You are continually ignoring responses that demonstrate numerous better explanations.

    Air striking fabric would cause it to ripple and or billow, clearly this is not the case. At no other point in the footage, is there even the slightest of movements of the flag, so once again clearly it cannot be a breeze or draft causing this.

    This leaves your spammed claim that it is a 'wall of air' being pushed by the astronaut. Once again, this is impossible. Air simply does not behave that way, even with large objects moving very fast. You have been shown evidence proving this and provided nothing to support your fictitious claim of 'the atmosphere explanation'.

    Many months ago in the first of your spammed threads, I postulated the possibility that the initial movement was simply a camera bloom. To support this, I showed that the complete area of that flag and pole move to the right of the screen in one clear movement and that the movement occurs when the bright suit of the astronaut enters the frame. Since then, a user at the apollohoax forum has noticed that there are two lens flares that also move with the flag. I have yet to see any explanation from you for this movement.

    This video shows that it started moving before he got close enough to touch it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0

    Air made it move. They were in a studio.
    Air could not possibly have been the cause of any movement. It just doesn't work that way. It's up there with your other ridiculous claim that the Chinese flag rotates underwater with zero restriction or billowing.

    This video shows that the flag movement is consistent with atmosphere.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yc2rVOs00
    Explain my rebuttal videos. You can not and will not.

    http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co...o-17-flag.html

    So does this one.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgUncG26MMA
    (18:50 time mark)
    That one demonstrates an alarming lack of knowledge regarding pendulum motion in fabric. The mythbusters experiment shows how the Earth flag flaps much quicker than the Apollo 15 Moon flag. A flag with vertical and side support is a complex pendulum with multiple pivot points and multiple energy transfers between them.

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    Air striking fabric would cause it to ripple and or billow,
    Not so. Anyone can hang a light piece of cloth from a ceiling light and trot by it at about a forty five degree angle or swing a pillow by it and see it behave exactly like the Apollo flag behaves.

    At no other point in the footage, is there even the slightest of movements of the flag
    That's the whole point. The only time the flag moves is when a breeze caused by the astronaut's passing causes it to move.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn6MTrin5eU
    (2:36 time mark)

    This video makes that expecially clear.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0

    The movement you say is camera bloom is when the astronaut is further away from the flag. It can be seen at the 8:57 time mark of this video.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QrvGmfUxRA

    It's really a moot point because the other movement when the astronaut is closer to the flag is obviously caused by air. If it was camera bloom, what caused it to continue swaying?

    I made a comment in the comment section of this video of yours.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc6sqIe3Aio

    Here it is.
    /watch?v=I7yc2rVOs00 Any movement he causes by twisting the pole will be made obvious by the movement of the support rod. The support rod is not moving in a way that's consistent with its making the flag stop moving so we know it's air that makes it stop moving. It's consistent with the movement of the Mythbusters flag that's in air. This is one of those anomalies that's simply too clear to obfuscate. Your success rate is going to be close to zero.
    The edits in your video misrepresent what actually happens to the flag. People who watch the continuous footage will see that.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yc2rVOs00
    (00:50 and 1:50 time marks)

    You've got a patronizing authoritative attitude, but you're saying some pretty lame things. Something lame said in an authoritative patronizing way is still lame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    Not so. Anyone can hang a light piece of cloth from a ceiling light and trot by it at about a forty five degree angle or swing a pillow by it and see it behave exactly like the Apollo flag behaves.


    That's the whole point. The only time the flag moves is when a breeze caused by the astronaut's passing causes it to move.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn6MTrin5eU
    (2:36 time mark)

    This video makes that expecially clear.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0

    The movement you say is camera bloom is when the astronaut is further away from the flag. It can be seen at the 8:57 time mark of this video.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QrvGmfUxRA

    It's really a moot point because the other movement when the astronaut is closer to the flag is obviously caused by air. If it was camera bloom, what caused it to continue swaying?

    I made a comment in the comment section of this video of yours.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc6sqIe3Aio

    Here it is.


    The edits in your video misrepresent what actually happens to the flag. People who watch the continuous footage will see that.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yc2rVOs00
    (00:50 and 1:50 time marks)

    You've got a patronizing authoritative attitude, but you're saying some pretty lame things. Something lame said in an authoritative patronizing way is still lame.
    So much wrong with your post....
    Out to the road,out 'neath the stars,feelin' the breeze,passing the cars.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    Not so. Anyone can hang a light piece of cloth from a ceiling light and trot by it at about a forty five degree angle or swing a pillow by it and see it behave exactly like the Apollo flag behaves.
    Hogwash. This is a claim you have made dozens of times all over the internet.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=%22p...w=1366&bih=621

    So, let's see the proof. Video a demonstration and put it up on one of your youtube accounts. Here is your big chance to actually prove something.

    That's the whole point. The only time the flag moves is when a breeze caused by the astronaut's passing causes it to move.
    A totally windless environment on Earth? Hogwash. The astronaut brushes it with his arm, you cannot argue with Jarrah White's analysis can you? It is completely irrelevant that he says the flag moved before. He shows quite clearly that the astronaut's elbow is easily close enough to brush the flag.

    You simply are incapable of admitting you are wrong. This behaviour has been going on now for 5 years.

    The movement you say is camera bloom is when the astronaut is further away from the flag. It can be seen at the 8:57 time mark of this video.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QrvGmfUxRA
    Further away than the tiny air wake made by a moving man! How can you not see this?

    It's really a moot point because the other movement when the astronaut is closer to the flag is obviously caused by air. If it was camera bloom, what caused it to continue swaying?
    I swear my grand kids understand stuff better than you. The so called initial movement and the astronaut subsequently hitting the flag are not mutually exclusive. I explained what that meant to you before, it obviously doesn't register. Just because event 1 happens, it doesn't mean event 2 doesn't.

    Oh never mind - you won't take any notice of this anyway!

    I made a comment in the comment section of this video of yours.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc6sqIe3Aio
    I suggest you go and read my reply, since it is made on my channel where I can tell you exactly what I think of you.

    "The same movement he uses to move the flag is the same movement he could very easily have imparted to stop it. It's all hardly noticeable what wrist twisting he is doing. Such a xxxx, ignores the fact that it looks completely untenable even speeded up 150%. The astronauts cross, so wires are impossible, and the little vertical motion is too slow. It looks close enough at 200% but now looks ridiculous."

    The edits in your video misrepresent what actually happens to the flag.
    You are lying.

    People who watch the continuous footage will see that.
    Nobody will agree with. As usual.

    You've got a patronizing authoritative attitude, but you're saying some pretty lame things. Something lame said in an authoritative patronizing way is still lame.
    You are an habitual spammer who cuts and pastes a whole host of almost identical replies. Nothing you type is original, it's just a copy of a copy of a copy from one of your previous spammed forum threads.

    http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/

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