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Thread: THU 900PM, MSNBC documentary 'Why We Did it' (the REAL reason we went to IRAQ)

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    and since he's an 'oil man', he was the reason.
    Oil was the reason the neocons got Bush to go along with Iraq. With all that Iraqi oil being smuggled out of the country, the Texas oilmen were having a difficult time holding body and soul together. That and "he tried to kill my daddy".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pardy View Post
    Since Iraq didn't have WMD's, and there was no reliable evidence that they had WMD's, or that they would use them, why do you think that the USA invaded Iraq?

    I hear lots of reasons from the right:

    1) To depose a tyrant... even thought there were far worse tyrants in many other countries.
    2) To liberate Iraq... even though Iranians were just as oppressed.
    3) To get a gateway from the gulf to Afghanistan... even though they don't touch
    4) War is good for the economy

    I never thought it had much to do with oil -- there were plenty of other sources of oil that Iraq had no influence over. I think that the main reason was that G.W. Bush saw his father's popularity surge during the first Gulf War and he wanted the same results.
    No evidence? The entire world thought he had them and was prepared to use them including your precious democrat heroes. He even used them to gas his own people. In order to gas people to death you need WMDs. As a fact he had them, however, once it was discovered there were no longer WMDS or a WMD threat the war became illegal and should have stopped. The problem is it would have left a power vacuum and that result would have been a disaster that's why it was prolonged.
    Obama Nation = Abomination

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turin View Post
    Let me provide you with a small lesson economics.


    The president has absolutley NO control over the price of gas. The price of gas is set by the global market. Period.

    The only way a president can control the price of gas, is to ensure that more gas is reaching the market. More gas on the market = cheaper prices.

    And before you even say "OMG Keystone!!!!!" even if there had been no obstruction of that pipeline being built, it still would not be completed today, and the price of gas would still be what it is.

    Fact is, that we have had a brutally harsh winter in the US. Gas prices spike because of that.


    But I know it makes you feel better to blame the black man in office right?
    Why do you point out the color of our Presidents skin? I love the lefty racist mind. Sorry, the post you responded to had no racial undertones at all. Your racial pyromania has been noted. The only thing worse than racist is someone who creates a racist situation when there isn't one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SourD View Post
    It will be pure propaganda for sure. But you'll eat it up.
    I hear they are going to have the cast of "Finding Bigfoot" host the documentary. It should be riveting.
    Obama Nation = Abomination

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpicturetaker View Post
    I'll certainly be watching. IF IT WASN'T ABOUT THE OIL, then WHAT WAS IT FOR?? (We know you can't BOMB someone into creating and accepting a democracy). So, yeah, I'd like to know!! We owe it to the young men and woman who died there. We owe it to their families. And frankly, we owe it to the 1,000,000 DEAD IRAQIS (of course since we still don't acknowledge the CIVILIAN CARNAGE we wrought, I guess we won't worry about what they think).

    I'd love to think we might LEARN what NOT TO DO again. But I've now lived long enough to see Viet Nam and Iraq and in another 25 or 30 years, I feel sure we'll INVADE SOMEONE SOMEWHERE. And we will probably lose that too.

    THURSDAY NIGHT 9PM, MSNBC


    Maddow said her documentary concludes that if the United States is to avoid "these kind of protracted foreign occupations, like we did under the previous president, we canít effectively make good decisions about that until we understand why we did that."

    "We know the public case for why we went to Iraq was not true," Maddow said, adding that her findings for the documentary were "disturbing."
    "It's getting at the question that needs to be answered," she said.
    Yeah I would have considered watching it right up until the word "Maddow" was associated with it. Her idea of "shocking" typically requires someone to bend reality with the skill of a contortionist. she makes Michael Moore seem stable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrapinstation View Post
    Let me give you a little history lesson.

    When gas prices skyrocketed under Bush, every nightly news program on television's lead story was 'high gas prices', 'pain at the pumps', etc, etc. Bush was always shown, and since he's an 'oil man', he was the reason. Odd how you don't remember any of that? It's truly bizarre how we haven't heard one thing in 5 years about gas prices, even though they are consistently higher under Obama than they ever were under Bush.

    Of course, once prices got high, Bush announced we'd start producing more oil, opening reserves, etc, and naturally the price dropped to $1.60. Why hasn't 'the black man' done the same?

    You seem to be unable to understand certain realities. He DID release some of the reserves into circulation. But whatever. I can see you have no real goal here other than to blame the black man.
    Republicans ponder which response to use about Obama regarding Syria:
    Obama has GONE TO FAR!!!
    Obama has NOT DONE ENOUGH!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoebe Bump View Post
    Oil was the reason the neocons got Bush to go along with Iraq. With all that Iraqi oil being smuggled out of the country, the Texas oilmen were having a difficult time holding body and soul together. That and "he tried to kill my daddy".
    Michael Moore went there a decade ago. If this is "shocking", then she will try to weave some conspiracy connecting the Iraq War to a conspiracy to hide the financial market activity that lead to the collpase, totally ignoring that Clinton was the one who repealed Glass-Steagall with heavy democratic support from some big hitters for the Financial Services Modernization Act that became the law that caused the collapse.

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    The wheels didn't come off the economy until Bush's last year or two, meaning that he had six years or so to see what was coming and re-enact Glass-Steagall or something akin to it. Let's face it, there are as many Republicans who wanted to get rid of Glass-Steagall as Democrats.

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    Don't foget to watch this toniight!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaOmega View Post
    No evidence? The entire world thought he had them and was prepared to use them including your precious democrat heroes. He even used them to gas his own people. In order to gas people to death you need WMDs. As a fact he had them, however, once it was discovered there were no longer WMDS or a WMD threat the war became illegal and should have stopped. The problem is it would have left a power vacuum and that result would have been a disaster that's why it was prolonged.
    Which world would that be? Here on Earth, many nations were not convinced that Iraq had WMDs. 5 years after the war, the Senate said that Bush's intelligence was wrong. Even Bush admitted to this. He said it was his greatest mistake.
    "13 investigations into Benghazi leads me to believe the GOP are one incompetent Party." -- plant

    If you didn't like something that Hillary did in 2011, why didn't you complain about it in 2011?

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