Thread: Iran, and their nuclear missles.

Originally Posted by Virtus

Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would, " wipe Israel off the face of the earth."

He never said that and as Up on the governor said he doesn't have the power. Do you have any proof he deified his leaders about nuclear development? They seem to support the 20% enrichment now. There shouldn't be another invasion in the middle east America has eroded enough of its freedoms, and helped destabilize the regions in poverty. I wouldn't take the Israeli's government words they know they have a nuclear arsenal that can wipe Iran off the map and they know they have other countries military and intelligence backing. Besides Iran offered the IAEA a nuclear tour but Israel has refused them.

Originally Posted by Mya

Clearly Iran is walking onto the path of self-destruction.

Thank you for simply stating the truth most times drives home the very heart of a matter.

Originally Posted by Virtus

This is reason enough for countries to intervene, and stop them before they have nuclear missiles. The way I see it, avoiding war with Iran is highly unlikely.

To begin with, it is very questionable if Iran even possesses the capabilities to produce a Nuclear Missile.

Remember, historically first run nuclear weapons have been large bulky things. Even though the first Atomic Bombs were detonated in 1945, the first Nuclear Missiles were not built until 1957, 12 years later.

Even with all the aid Israel had in it's nuclear program, it is believed that they had their first bomb by 1959-60. And their first Nuclear Missile was not ready for use until 1971.

So even if Iran builds nuclear warheads this year, we will likely not see them small enough and a missile designed to carry them for another 6-10 years at least.

Originally Posted by Mushroom

To begin with, it is very questionable if Iran even possesses the capabilities to produce a Nuclear Missile.

Remember, historically first run nuclear weapons have been large bulky things. Even though the first Atomic Bombs were detonated in 1945, the first Nuclear Missiles were not built until 1957, 12 years later.

Even with all the aid Israel had in it's nuclear program, it is believed that they had their first bomb by 1959-60. And their first Nuclear Missile was not ready for use until 1971.

So even if Iran builds nuclear warheads this year, we will likely not see them small enough and a missile designed to carry them for another 6-10 years at least.

And what if Iran did have nuclear ballistic missiles?

It would be suicide to use them.

Israel alone could likely destroy every major Iranian city, and I am sure has contingency plans for just such a retaliation.

And as paranoid as Iran is(with some justification) why would they not assume that the U.S. would indeed retaliate on Israel's behalf?

Think of the scenario's here:

a) Iran uses a nuclear armed missile against Israel- Iran's 20 largest cities would likely be destroyed or damaged. Iran's government would for all purposes cease to exist. Iran's enemies would have a wide open opportunity to attack.

b) Iran uses non-conventional methods to detonate a nuclear weapon in Israel so Iran can claim it isn't there. Israel still retaliates- does anyone doubt that Israel would?

c) Iran gives a nuclear weapon to a terrorist group- not a chance. Iran is not going to supply a nuclear weapon to any organization that is not under the direct, and absolute control of Iran's leadership.

And if that bomb detonated in Israel, Israel would still retaliate.

North Korea has not used nukes against South Korea, and Iran won't use them against Israel. None of their leaders wants to die that much, or watch their personal fiefdom go away.

Originally Posted by Virtus

With Iran recently making another breakthrough in nuclear technology, that they claim is for "non militaristic reasons," it worries me even more. Out of all the countries have nukes, Iran would be most likely to use them. Considering their country is considered one of the strongest countries in the middle east, and would very much like to insert Muslim supremacy, they are a real threat. Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would, " wipe Israel off the face of the earth." This is reason enough for countries to intervene, and stop them before they have nuclear missiles. The way I see it, avoiding war with Iran is highly unlikely.

Mmmm...if you could only get one fact right...I would have some faith in the American education system!
You cannot get an investigation into 9/11.
You cannot stop American torture!
You cannot stop American secret torture chambers and secret American prisons!
Your country invaded illegally Iraq and murdered on a scale that even American forces are so ashamed that they are committing suicide in huge numbers! Millions murdered to give them freedom.....bollocks!
You cannot get an investigation into the USS Liberty and those American murdered by your ZIONIST FRIENDS! Who just happen to own your senators and congress men and women!
Obama requested the military close Gitmo...and they refused!

What's it like being a mushroom......kept in the dark...and fed with Keich!

Regards
Highlander

Originally Posted by SFJEFF

Iran's 20 largest cities would likely be destroyed or damaged. Iran's government would for all purposes cease to exist. Iran's enemies would have a wide open opportunity to attack.

If 20 Iranian cities were destroyed by nuclear explosions, there would be so much residual radiation in the country that no one would be able to survive there for long enough to attack anything.

Originally Posted by Haplo

If 20 Iranian cities were destroyed by nuclear explosions, there would be so much residual radiation in the country that no one would be able to survive there for long enough to attack anything.

What it like......having ones face in-bedded in the sand?
Iran has no nuclear bomb....only the idiot in America would be stupid enough and ignorant enough to use bombs such as these....perhaps you need to look closer at the degenerates their before they have a chance to do so!

Well it certainly wouldn't be israel that would attack! Those Nazi degenerates are good at murdering unarmed men women and children but reticent when the likes of Hezbollah is in front of them! Down right shy I'd say!
Nah.....Israel owns America and the political system...it will be Americans laying down there lives for a lost cause!

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/220920.html

Time some sort of reality surfaced in the American media rather than the Zionist press propaganda!

Regards
Highlander

Originally Posted by highlander

What it like......having ones face in-bedded in the sand?

Did I say that we should nuke them?

No. I did not.

Originally Posted by Virtus

With Iran recently making another breakthrough in nuclear technology, that they claim is for "non militaristic reasons," it worries me even more. Out of all the countries have nukes, Iran would be most likely to use them. Considering their country is considered one of the strongest countries in the middle east, and would very much like to insert Muslim supremacy, they are a real threat. Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would, " wipe Israel off the face of the earth." This is reason enough for countries to intervene, and stop them before they have nuclear missiles. The way I see it, avoiding war with Iran is highly unlikely.

War is pointless for both Iran and NATO, and atleast if Iran has nuclear weapons we aren't going to attack, and then we can shift to getting rid of the Saudi scum, and stop selling billions in weapons to them.

Originally Posted by SFJEFF

And what if Iran did have nuclear ballistic missiles?

It would be suicide to use them.

Israel alone could likely destroy every major Iranian city, and I am sure has contingency plans for just such a retaliation.

And as paranoid as Iran is(with some justification) why would they not assume that the U.S. would indeed retaliate on Israel's behalf?

Think of the scenario's here:

a) Iran uses a nuclear armed missile against Israel- Iran's 20 largest cities would likely be destroyed or damaged. Iran's government would for all purposes cease to exist. Iran's enemies would have a wide open opportunity to attack.

b) Iran uses non-conventional methods to detonate a nuclear weapon in Israel so Iran can claim it isn't there. Israel still retaliates- does anyone doubt that Israel would?

c) Iran gives a nuclear weapon to a terrorist group- not a chance. Iran is not going to supply a nuclear weapon to any organization that is not under the direct, and absolute control of Iran's leadership.

And if that bomb detonated in Israel, Israel would still retaliate.

North Korea has not used nukes against South Korea, and Iran won't use them against Israel. None of their leaders wants to die that much, or watch their personal fiefdom go away.

Iran wants to create threats to America which have the effect of weakening American power. A reduction of American power means a decline in the standard of living in the country. Iran wants to drive America out of the middle east and the expand its influence and power worldwide. That's why Ahmadinejad has been visiting Venezuela, Ecuador, Nicaragua and Cuba this week.