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Old 04-28-2006, 10:42 AM
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Default Actually, I am mistaken.

I went back and read the report from globalsecurity, which is a pretty accurate source in my humble opinion. According to them, North Korea likely had 8 weapons already made by 2005. They could even have 20. What is more, this is only the tip of the iceberg.

"North Korea maintains uranium mines with four million tons of exploitable high-quality uranium.)"

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/dprk/nuke.htm

I believe it is more then possible that they have sold Iran at least two weapons in utmost secrecy.
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This is the point I was trying to make. We do not take out N.K., because the benefits are not worth the risk. N.K. has more then enough material to make more then one or two bombs, as someone on here posted. They had a couple of bombs two years ago. By now, most estimates are that they have five or six. Considering they need energy needs so badly, it would make sense for them to have sold one or two too Iran. Iran has stated lately that they would strike back with "double the intensity" of any strike aimed at themselves. Quite possible one should prepare themselves for nuclear war if Iran is attacked; yet, this possibility is being ignored.
It makes no sense that North Korea sold nukes to Iran. If Iran could just buy nukes, then the main purpose for their nuclear program is for power plants, and everyones fears would be unwarranted.
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Clearly, we must launch a preemptive war against this mad Muslim state before it's too late! Too many of their neighbors (Pakistan, Israel, India, Kuwait [USA]) already have WMD.
Think of the joy we will feel when we are greeted as liberators when we roll through Tehran in our up-armored HumVees!

I want to know why we haven't bombed North Korea yet. North Korea has the nukes we don't want Iran to get. And now North Korea is supplying Iran militarily? Why is no one demanding we take out North Korea like they advocate taking out Iran?
Two reasons...
1. North Korea has an enormous army and would overrun Seoul in days.
2. The have indicated that, if attacked by the USA, they would incinerate Tokyo.

We may be bullies but we're not stupid about our choice of patsies. If we punk Iran, however, I will amend that last statement.


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Clearly, we must launch a preemptive war against this mad Muslim state before it's too late! Too many of their neighbors (Pakistan, Israel, India, Kuwait [USA]) already have WMD.
Think of the joy we will feel when we are greeted as liberators when we roll through Tehran in our up-armored HumVees!

I want to know why we haven't bombed North Korea yet. North Korea has the nukes we don't want Iran to get. And now North Korea is supplying Iran militarily? Why is no one demanding we take out North Korea like they advocate taking out Iran?
Two reasons...
1. North Korea has an enormous army and would overrun Seoul in days.
2. The have indicated that, if attacked by the USA, they would incinerate Tokyo.

We may be bullies but we're not stupid about our choice of patsies. If we punk Iran, however, I will amend that last statement.


was trying to get a rise out of the people (can I call them that?) that want to bomb Iran. Why are they so strangely quiet about North Korea. Is that because their fearless leader also keeps his mouth shut about North Korea?
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It makes no sense that North Korea sold nukes to Iran. If Iran could just buy nukes, then the main purpose for their nuclear program is for power plants, and everyones fears would be unwarranted.
Really? That's news.

I love how people believe terrorists could acquire nuclear weapons from Iran, ship them over the Pacific ocean on boats, pass the U.S. Coast Guard, etc. Yet, people never stop to think...wow...Iran has billions of more dollars then any terrorist group, they control an entire coastline, and they trade heavily with North Korea. North Korea also has a much larger surplus of weapons then Iran.

NEWSFLASH!!!!

Iran barely has enough uranium to fuel it's country, let alone to make a ton of nuclear weapons.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/mines.htm

"Uranium resources of Iran are not considered rich. The results of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran (AEOI) exploration activities have shown proven reserves of about 3,000 tons of Uranium so far. According to the discovered indices (more than 350 anomalies) and the results of the field discoveries, the expected resources of Iran could be at the range of 20,000-30,000 tons of U3O8, throughout the country. Therefore Iran's domestic reserves might be sufficient enough to supply the raw material for needed nuclear power plants in future."

Oh, but i c. We believe it is more likely that atom bombs are going to come into the black market from a country with a mere 30,000 tons as opposed to a country that has 4,000,000 tons and a well developed nuclear program. That's a brilliant analysis. So typical of the American public. Duuuuuuuhhhh......
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Old 04-28-2006, 07:39 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Boy

The first nuke the U.S. made used 1,000 tons of uranium. Iran probably has a more efficient process, which means they could probably make about 6 bombs within ten years time, with a maximum of 60 bombs. North Korea, on the other hand, has already likely made 15-20 bombs already, considering they were estimated to have 8 at the very least in 2005. North Korea probably has more then this, as the article I quoted suggests they have the capacity to create two bombs a month by now. So let's see, North Korea will produce more weapons in 3 years then Iran could ever produce. North Korea has the potential to produce somewhere in the neighborhood of...oh.... 2,000 uranium bombs.

Let's see...let's worry about the country that can make 60 bombs at best, and what is more, a country that won't be able to produce that many until at least 15-20 years as the uranium is not even explored.

Let's ignore the country that has the capability to make 2,000 with a likely 30 bombs already produced at this point in time.
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Europe won't believe it.....until they hear the KABOOM!
and then they will blame it on zionists.... while western media dominated by smart talented ammm.... people will be teling us how their investigations clearly prove it was done by the bad people from non zionist occupied countries such as Iran...
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because they dont fall into the panic induced frenzies common among the neocon dominated leadership in the US. They just need to prescribe valium to US politicians and the world would be a lot less violent
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That would be quite a shipment though... i wouldn't be surprised if the mi5 knew about it... you know cause our intelligence sucks...
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