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Originally Posted by Inferno You just don't relate to my sense of humor. How about this. Gosh darn funny man living in a whale. doncha know that gawd could do that I betcha he could. wink wink.

huh.this is a tired argument...ok
1. there was no prior knowledge as to what the bombs would do.
2. japan was devoloping them with the intent to use them on the US.
3. it was necessary to end the war. by dropping the bomb an estimated 500,000 lives were saved by preventing a long, dragged out war.
i really get tired of explaining this to people.

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Originally Posted by Inferno You just don't relate to my sense of humor. How about this. Gosh darn funny man living in a whale. doncha know that gawd could do that I betcha he could. wink wink.

[quote=Makedde;541698]I get really tired of hearing that arguement, too. What you posted was irrelevent in my view./QUOTE]
actually its completely relevent.
read my arguement again you'll see my response.
Thats true. however as i said WE had no idea what would happen. Other co untries however, saw what happened and still continued to research atomic secrets. now who's worst,
a. someone who has no idea of the power they're unleashing and after they do both rebuild what they destroyed to be 10X better AND take steps to make sure it never happens again.(SALT I/ SALTII)
or,
b. someone who knows what will happen and still expieriments with these materials and regularly threatens the world with atomic war thanks to irresponsible atomic policy.
Oh, and p.s. like i said already JAPAN WAS BUILDING THEM TO USE ON US!!! we were forced to choose us or them, we chose us.

oh and yeah, every country with nuclear capabilities has dropped a bomb. just because they haven't killed anybody doesn't mean they didn't drop them. we just have better aim

We were a democracy and had already been attacked in a war of conquest.



When is it appropriate to use nukes if not in self defense?



So the only people that can be trusted with them are the people who would never ever use them, even in self defense. Is that your position?

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Oh i see how it is. We can only be the good guys by dieing. -sigh- the hiroshima crap was 60 years ago anyways. Same people are in the decision making faction, so you really need to drop it.


As for nukes, Yes, we should definitely keep them. They don't harm anyone by sitting there. No other nation should be allowed nukes, but as for nuclear energy, countries can supply money to another nuclear power, and said nuclear power can supply nuclear energy to that country, without the customer having access to warheads.

Oh, and i really hate to sound like a loony, but through all the stuff i've been looking at when it comes to UFO's, it seems that the only weapon in mankind's arsenal alien life seems to fear is the nuke. So if anything, keep them around. What if a nasty meteorite comes along?

If someone drops a bomb on you, you can drop a bomb on them.

Kind of. I did say I don't think any country should have nukes, because I don't see the need for them.

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Originally Posted by Inferno You just don't relate to my sense of humor. How about this. Gosh darn funny man living in a whale. doncha know that gawd could do that I betcha he could. wink wink.

They dropped lots of bombs on us. So I am glad you agree that our retaliation was appropriate.



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[quote=peaceful warrior;542096]O.K so if I understand your argument, America had no idea what would happen when they dropped the bomb?

Please. . . . Ever heard of the Manhattan project, they new exactly what would happen they tested it first. However the first time they tested it, they weren’t 100% sure it wouldn’t set alight the troposphere, that’s quite irresponsible really.

SALT was more about curbing the escalating costs of the cold war, rather than “making sure it never happens again” hence the word limitation.

why then after the war did America develop the fusion bomb? Much more powerful than the fission one dropped! and continue to develop yields and multiple re-entry vehicles etc. It was American scientists who gave nuclear secrets to the USSR in order to maintain parity so they'd never be used.

Who currently does this? Iran doesn’t have them. N Korea either. India or Pakistan hasn’t threatened the world to my knowledge? Maybe here in the U.K?

Does Nagasaki, the Cuban Missile crisis and the star wars debacle class as regular?

America = Option B


Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with use of the bomb on Nagasaki, but the idea that these weapons should be limited to the U.S is frankly scary.