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Old 12-28-2007, 01:43 PM
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Yep, master Bush has surely made the world safer for democracy...

Iran Announces Purchase of Missiles From Russia

"Russia is to supply Iran with new S-300 air defense systems, Defense Minister Mostafa Mohammad Najjar said Wednesday, a sign of growing military cooperation between Moscow and Teheran."
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Old 12-28-2007, 03:06 PM
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Yep, master Bush has surely made the world safer for democracy...

Iran Announces Purchase of Missiles From Russia

"Russia is to supply Iran with new S-300 air defense systems, Defense Minister Mostafa Mohammad Najjar said Wednesday, a sign of growing military cooperation between Moscow and Teheran."
what makes you think that wouldn't have happened with or without Bush? Iran has been a world pain long before Bush, and now we will soon be faced with two terrorist nations with nukes, Iran, and Pakistan, ain't that just peachy. Those darn terrorists just won't behave themselves.
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Old 12-28-2007, 03:12 PM
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Iran Announces Purchase of Missiles From Russia

"Russia is to supply Iran with new S-300 air defense systems, Defense Minister Mostafa Mohammad Najjar said Wednesday, a sign of growing military cooperation between Moscow and Teheran."
What does that have ro do with Bush??? Now everything everyone does is Bush's fault??
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Yeah, those darn Russkies are buildin' 'em a new reactor now, too.....

Those Russkies are not playing nice, right now.....
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The world needs a strong Russia as a counterweight to US imperialist ambitions. In this respect Putin fits the bill perfectly because, unlike his predecessor, he is intelligent and will not suffer fools gladly.

It's interesting to note that the Russian populace hated the drunken goon Yeltsin but ironically he was loved by the West. This was due to the fact that he was willing to compromise too easily Russian interests. Conversely, Putin commands solid internal support but is disliked by the West.

A strong intelligent Russian leader that won't play ball to the West is hated but a compliant half-wit drunk "we" like. Tells ya all you need to know really.
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The world needs a strong Russia as a counterweight to US imperialist ambitions. In this respect Putin fits the bill perfectly because, unlike his predecessor, he is intelligent and will not suffer fools gladly.

It's interesting to note that the Russian populace hated the drunken goon Yeltsin but ironically he was loved by the West. This was due to the fact that he was willing to compromise too easily Russian interests. Conversely, Putin commands solid internal support but is disliked by the West.

A strong intelligent Russian leader that won't play ball to the West is hated but a compliant half-wit drunk "we" like. Tells ya all you need to know really.
Very interesting.... so, you're suggesting a "balance of powers" kinda thing, yes?

Well, yeah - that makes sense to me, too. I mean, that's kinda what it's coming to, right? With all this idiocy around Bushie's foreign policy? The rest of the world's kinda seein' the need to "balance" that, right?

Well... I mean, the whole deal with people like Putin and Bushie, is that people don't like their "methods", yes?

You, if you're waltzin' around the world assassinating people who don't agree with you, that's kinda "more or less" the same thing as traipsing into a country and destroying its infrastructure for no reason.

And I mean, if we gotta "balance the idiots" in this world, we're kinda in trouble, aren't we?

You know, IF, as you say, the two parties to such a balance are "reasonably intelligent", you end up with something like "mutually assured destruction" (a "stalemate", right? which is what you want) -

But ah... if the two parties "aren't" so intelligent, you might end up with "something else".....

See, I mean, this is the difference between the policy of "containment", which is kinda what Musharraf is trying with those Islamist clowns up there in north-west Pakistan, and a policy of "pre-emption", which is what Bushie did in Iraq, and what he probably would do in Pakistan, if he thought he could get away with it.

But check this out - the ISI "intercepted" a Bin Laden video, which tells me that they know where he is - so I mean, either Bushie knows too (which I doubt), or they're not telling Bushie. And why would that be? Well, it's cause they don't trust him - they have the "view", that if he knew that, he'd try to do something stupid like get in there and kill him in a firefight.

And you know what happens then, right? He becomes a [u]martyr[/U}, and I mean, you know, that's exactly why Musharraf can't go in after the guy himself, 'cause if he becomes a martyr, then suddenly we'll have 200,000 terrorists instead of just 10,000.

And I mean, in the Islamist mindset, the only way to become a martyr is to "die fighting", so like, if you end with something like a Saddam-type "capture", where you're draggin' the guy out of a hole with a 30-day beard that looks like he's been there FOREVER, and I mean, you just take a picture of that and post it in the public square - THAT image, will resonate with all Islamists everywhere, and it would be a message like, "dont' bother, we've won". You know? It would be better than Osama Bin Laden's head on a platter - much better. But Bushie, doesn't understand things like this, and probably never will......

But ah, yeah - so, Putin. Putin's aligning with the Iranians, it seems. That's been a "relationship" going back "quite a ways", yes? And you know, what's in between there, those minor 'Stans, right? Well.... hm.... if you were Putin, what would you be thinking, in terms of a "regional alignment" there?
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The world needs a strong Russia as a counterweight to US imperialist ambitions. In this respect Putin fits the bill perfectly because, unlike his predecessor, he is intelligent and will not suffer fools gladly.
Hogwash - the US doesn't have any imperialist ambitions - you Bushophobes now just throw out pure dreck like that with no argument, facts, or connection to reality. The Russians, by contrast, have never completely released their hold on some of their former colonies.

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Yeltsin was loved because of his support for democracy - anathema to thugs like you and Putin.

Quit polluting this forum with lowbrow marxist idiocy.
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Iran has been a pain for the US, not for the World
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Old 12-29-2007, 02:26 AM
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The world needs a strong Russia as a counterweight to US imperialist ambitions. .
Seems, even North Koreans agree with that statement

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Domination and plunder are the intrinsic nature of the imperialists. They are pursuing a neo-colonialist policy in a bid to attain their goals of aggression and plunder. They are thus intensifying their domination and plunder of other countries, pursuant to the policy.

Neo-colonialism pursues a new policy which calls for subjugating colonial countries politically and economically by “recognizing” their independence and using “aid” as a bait and putting them in military bondage by making them subject to a military alliance or treaty.

The above-said policy is mainly targeted against the countries which are rich in strategic resources and of military importance.

When they find those countries fail to meekly obey them, they egg anti-governmental forces on to create social and political confusion and disorder and carry out their scenario to overthrow the governments of those countries in a bid to turn them into their colonies.

The United States is working hard to put the areas of strategic importance and major regions rich in resources under its military control through the escalation of “anti-terrorism war” and intensify the domination and plunder of them.

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More like the other way around....

The US has been a "pain" for Iran.

Iran has been a "minor nuisance" for the US.

However, they could become a "big" nuisance if they get into bed with the Russkies again.

See, I mean, all those 'Stans down there, they're basically Muslim, and a lot of it is Shi'a, and so, that axis kinda "makes sense" - it "makes sense" that they would cooperate with each other -

You know, and the big deal there, is if Ahmedinejad and King what's-his-name over there in Saudi Arabia get any more chummy, and that results in the Sunnis coming into the fold, then the combined power of that whole aggregate there, would be quite formidable.
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