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Old 08-15-2004, 01:43 PM
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So it's clear that George Bush doesn't want Iran to get any nuclear weapons because they're part of some fictional axis of evil he publicly talked about, which did little but (*)(*)(*)(*) off the Iranians.

True: America has one of the worst human rights records of an existing nation.
True: America is the only nation to even drop a bomb, unnecessarily according to Eisenhower.
True: America has over, what is it, 2000 more nukes than anyone else?

So based on that, I would say that since we've decided Iran can' t be trusted with nuclear weapons, the U.S. can't be trusted with them either. I say if Bush is so adamant about stopping Iran's nuclear weapons program, he might want to start by getting rid of ours.
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I certainly don't want Iran to have WMD, but it is hypocritical for a country with nukes to argue that another country can't have them. Of course, we ARE both a superpower and hypocritical, so I doubt we will allow Iran to have nukes.

To be honest, I am glad (in this instance) that we are hypocritical but I am mindful that I am a hypocrit. I wonder if others acknowledge it also?
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Yeah, I definitely don't want Iran to have nuclear weapons, but I also would rather George Bush not go around toting his fake patriotism and claiming that they can't have them because we don't want them to. He's acting like a 2 year old who doesn't want his little brother to get the same toy he has.
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There is only one logical answer to this question ----- NO
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But we're still hypocrites
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Yes, we are. But, at least we admit it.
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We recently vetoed a request to inspect our nukes.....they have alot more than you or i think they do
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We recently vetoed a request to inspect our nukes.....they have alot more than you or i think they do
And, Bush wants to add mini nukes to the arsenal. I am so glad we are going to blur the line between conventional war and nuclear war.

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So it's clear that George Bush doesn't want Iran to get any nuclear weapons because they're part of some fictional axis of evil he publicly talked about, which did little but (*)(*)(*)(*) off the Iranians.

True: America has one of the worst human rights records of an existing nation.
True: America is the only nation to even drop a bomb, unnecessarily according to Eisenhower.
True: America has over, what is it, 2000 more nukes than anyone else?

So based on that, I would say that since we've decided Iran can' t be trusted with nuclear weapons, the U.S. can't be trusted with them either. I say if Bush is so adamant about stopping Iran's nuclear weapons program, he might want to start by getting rid of ours.
"America has one of the worst human rights records of an existing nation": False. Before you post fiction like this, we'd at least like to see a source where you dream up this crap. You might also spend some time in some 3rd world nations where the justice systems are completely corrupt before you spout out again.

"America is the only nation to even drop a bomb, unnecessarily according to Eisenhower." Funny you use Eisenhower here, as he later adamantly defended the right of the U.S. to test and expand its nuclear program, albeit for defensive reasons. And most agree that America would've taken heavy casualties if we had tried to take Japan by land.

"America has over, what is it, 2000 more nukes than anyone else?" Who knows, but its in the best interests of the US that others do not know.

Is the point of your post that every nation should have the right to obtain nuclear weapons and that the US should not try to stop/slow the proliferation of nukes?
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"America has one of the worst human rights records of an existing nation":
False. Before you post fiction like this, we'd at least like to see a source where you dream up this crap. You might also spend some time in some 3rd world nations where the justice systems are completely corrupt before you spout out again.

"America is the only nation to even drop a bomb, unnecessarily according to Eisenhower." Funny you use Eisenhower here, as he later adamantly defended the right of the U.S. to test and expand its nuclear program, albeit for defensive reasons. And most agree that America would've taken heavy casualties if we had tried to take Japan by land.
First point: regarding human rights... hm - aren't we forgetting the Indians you wiped out and the blacks you enslaved? No other nation in the world has ever done this on that large a scale.

Second point: blatantly UNTRUE: dropping the atomic bomb was absolutely unnecessary: Japan had offered THREE TIMES to capitulate before the bomb, with only one demand: keep the Emperor. What does America do? They drop the bomb, Japan capitulates and gets to keep the emperor anyway.

The bomb was dropped to test the bomb (and the scare the USSR) and for no other reason.

As for the subject of nuclear profileration - of course the US should try to stop this. But it's already too late - India, Pakistan, N Korea, Israel and possibly S Africa already have the bomb. You can't change the past, or is George W planning to invade all those countries too?
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