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Old 05-28-2008, 03:43 PM
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U.S. Republican Presidential candidate John McCain has said he will seek talks with Russia on reducing nuclear weapons if he makes it to the White House. Speaking at the University of Denver, McCain said he would move rapidly to make sure both countries have a much smaller nuclear arsenal.

In his speech McCain accepted that the U.S. and Russia had their disagreements, but insisted that compromise and co-operation are, nevertheless, possible.

“While we have serious differences, with the end of the Cold War Russia and the United States are no longer mortal enemies. As our two countries possess the overwhelming majority of the world's nuclear weapons, we have a special responsibility to reduce their number. I believe we should reduce our nuclear forces to the lowest level we judge necessary, and we should be prepared to enter into a new arms control agreement with Russia reflecting the nuclear reductions I will seek,” said McCain.

He then went on to refer to the issue of anti-missile defence against terrorism or so-called ‘rogue states’.

“I also believe we should work with Russia to build confidence in our missile defence programme, including through such initiatives as the sharing of early warning data and prior notification of missile launches. I would also redouble our common efforts to reduce the risk that nuclear, chemical or biological weapons may fall into the hands of terrorists or unfriendly governments,” he added.

The U.S. has previously opposed any legally binding limits on nuclear weapons, and McCain has not been known as a particularly active supporter of non-proliferation.

He has been criticised by Democrats for being too close to George W. Bush. Some say it’s not surprising he is now distancing himself from the Bush administration, especially when it comes to foreign policy.

However, McCain was endorsed by George Bush as a Republican candidate and the two agree on many issues, including Iraq and Afghanistan.

Barrack Obama, the leading Democrat candidate, has previously said he’s willing to negotiate with many foreign leaders, including those of North Korea and Iran, something that McCain has repeatedly criticised, saying that it won’t lead anywhere.

McCain once again confirmed his position, alluding to Obama indirectly.

“Today, some people seem to think they've discovered a brand new cause, something no one before them ever thought of. Many believe all we need to do to end the nuclear programmes of hostile governments is have our president talk with leaders in Pyongyang and Tehran, as if we haven't tried talking to these governments repeatedly over the past two decades,” he said.

“Others think military action alone can achieve our goals, as if military actions were not fraught with their own terrible risks. While the use of force may be necessary, it can only be as a last resort, not a first step,” McCain added.

Not everybody welcomed the speech – McCain was interrupted several times by anti-war protesters.

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U.S. Republican Presidential candidate John McCain has said he will seek talks with Russia on reducing nuclear weapons if he makes it to the White House. Speaking at the University of Denver, McCain said he would move rapidly to make sure both countries have a much smaller nuclear arsenal.

In his speech McCain accepted that the U.S. and Russia had their disagreements, but insisted that compromise and co-operation are, nevertheless, possible.

“While we have serious differences, with the end of the Cold War Russia and the United States are no longer mortal enemies. As our two countries possess the overwhelming majority of the world's nuclear weapons, we have a special responsibility to reduce their number. I believe we should reduce our nuclear forces to the lowest level we judge necessary, and we should be prepared to enter into a new arms control agreement with Russia reflecting the nuclear reductions I will seek,” said McCain.

He then went on to refer to the issue of anti-missile defence against terrorism or so-called ‘rogue states’.

“I also believe we should work with Russia to build confidence in our missile defence programme, including through such initiatives as the sharing of early warning data and prior notification of missile launches. I would also redouble our common efforts to reduce the risk that nuclear, chemical or biological weapons may fall into the hands of terrorists or unfriendly governments,” he added.

The U.S. has previously opposed any legally binding limits on nuclear weapons, and McCain has not been known as a particularly active supporter of non-proliferation.

He has been criticised by Democrats for being too close to George W. Bush. Some say it’s not surprising he is now distancing himself from the Bush administration, especially when it comes to foreign policy.

However, McCain was endorsed by George Bush as a Republican candidate and the two agree on many issues, including Iraq and Afghanistan.

Barrack Obama, the leading Democrat candidate, has previously said he’s willing to negotiate with many foreign leaders, including those of North Korea and Iran, something that McCain has repeatedly criticised, saying that it won’t lead anywhere.

McCain once again confirmed his position, alluding to Obama indirectly.

“Today, some people seem to think they've discovered a brand new cause, something no one before them ever thought of. Many believe all we need to do to end the nuclear programmes of hostile governments is have our president talk with leaders in Pyongyang and Tehran, as if we haven't tried talking to these governments repeatedly over the past two decades,” he said.

“Others think military action alone can achieve our goals, as if military actions were not fraught with their own terrible risks. While the use of force may be necessary, it can only be as a last resort, not a first step,” McCain added.

Not everybody welcomed the speech – McCain was interrupted several times by anti-war protesters.

http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/25340

If you stop calling McCAIN McClown I will stop calling Obama BO!! Deal or no deal !!
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If you stop calling McCAIN McClown I will stop calling Obama BO!! Deal or no deal !!
Why can't we call all three of them McClown, BO, and Hitlary?

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but what will mKKKain say tomorrow?
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Do you understand the difference between what McCain is saying and what Obama is saying?


(Questions for the OP not the clown above this post.)
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neg points for an insult ... kiss it. bubba

Whats the matter clown can't you talk like a big tough boy in public?

BTW prove the KKK association McCain has or leave the forum.
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Whats the matter clown can't you talk like a big tough boy in public?

BTW prove the KKK association McCain has or leave the forum.
i should have pressed the panic button to alert the mods to your insult but didn't
you then committed another terms of use violation by posting a pm
somehow, i think 12th will cover for you
and mKKKain deserves that name (which pleases me to know you enjoy it so) by virtue of his repeated votes against issues which would benefit and/or reflect positively on African-Americans. if you don't enjoy my posts - and you previously indicated i was on your ignore list - no surprise that you lied about it - then you are very welcome to depart the forum
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in advance, i will say i wish it was nice having you around, but it isn't
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Nope.

Unlike Obama I don't negotiate with Terrorists or their supporters.

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...Not everybody welcomed the speech – McCain was interrupted several times by anti-war protesters.
This was a big newsworthy article for "RussiaToday.COM"

Such protests are forbidden in the Russian police state.


It is a bit strange that so called "anti-war" protesters would be protesting a speech about reducing the number of nuclear weapons in this World from two of the biggest arsenals of these kind of weapons.

Maybe these so called "anti-war" protesters are just so happy to be in the free World where they are at liberty to protest - even if they have chosen to protest against reducing nuclear weapons. - Still thats there right


When will the Russian people have that same right without fear of being imprisoned?
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i should have pressed the panic button to alert the mods to your insult but didn't
you then committed another terms of use violation by posting a pm
somehow, i think 12th will cover for you
and mKKKain deserves that name (which pleases me to know you enjoy it so) by virtue of his repeated votes against issues which would benefit and/or reflect positively on African-Americans. if you don't enjoy my posts - and you previously indicated i was on your ignore list - no surprise that you lied about it - then you are very welcome to depart the forum
and if it means that much to you, let's make a wager. if mKKKain wins the presidential election i will leave; however, when Obama wins the presidency you will leave
if you are willing to make that wager acknowledge it publicly and one of us leaves once the election results are announced
in advance, i will say i wish it was nice having you around, but it isn't
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