there was a time when i used to enjoy posting here but its not any more-my conscious is not permitting me to post anymore here-i am feeling guilty-i have called people here with names and told bad words to them-i had never used bad words in my life to others but for the first time i have called people bastards here and insulted famlies of particular members here and i am deeply sorry that-i even dont know janglo's parents but i have insulted them also-i have called certain women as (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)es,etc-this bad western quality has come into me and i wont let this quality to become a bad habit in me for i am a god fearing boy.i sincerely aploagise to the members whom i have called names and said to them bad words and insulted their famlies.may ALLAH forgive me.ameen

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Political, in some ways you seem like an Islamic equivalent of me. Many times I thought I'd had enough of this site and/or that it was having a bad influence on me. Like you, I was 20 when I came here. At that time, I also held many views that were considered extreme. I had some terrible fits of rage as well. However, I have learned a great deal about politics and about myself, made a new friend in heikstheo and grown a lot as a person as a result of this site. I think that liberals, Muslims and other people who don't fit in the American conservative mold get a slanted picture of this site because of one person: JP5. I'm not blaming her. She simply has far more posts than anyone else and posts at a faster rate than any of the other moderators. However, she was also voted the most right-wing person on the site in a poll. Her views don't represent the "center" of this site by any means. I don't know Janglo very well, but I can tell you that it is usually best to ignore barneyfife's posts (I noticed that he gave you a hard time as well). Most people on the site consider him to be a bit mentally unbalanced. I tend to poke fun at him, as do many other posters. As for Bombeni, she is actually a good person at heart, but she, even more than me, is known for outbursts of temper. You would probably find the most support among the site's hardcore liberals: Nawbut, apotropoxy, truebrit and livefree (among others). Moreover, JavaBlack, a left-libertarian moderator, gets along with nearly everyone. I think that this site needs you to balance it ideologically, and I think that you need this site to help you learn new perspectives. It is ultimately your decision, but I really think that it is best for everyone, including you, if you stay.

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Political: Before you go (I've heard that before) you need to know, that in addition to become a potty mouth, YOU have single-handedly been responsible for turning Americans against the Muslim cause. I knew a few muslim guys back in my college days, but they were very polite and complacent and wouldn't DARE have talked down the country that opened it's doors up to them to get an education they could only dream of getting in their own country. A couple of them claimed to be in love with me, and wanted to get married which my sixth sense said no to, luckily. Then a good friend of mine did marry one, and he beat the crap out of her, talked to her like she was garbage, as this is the way men treat their women, she was told. Now here I have you, able to hide behind a computer, confirming the true nature of the average muslim man. Thanks Political for making it easy to know my enemy.

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well thank you ma'am.i dont know how much of your post is true but i am a very proud muslim boy and dont worry this time i am really going.i am a honest person who believes in honesty and ma'am dont judge ISLAM by the muslims but see ISLAM for yourself-we respect jesus(peace be upon him)but not as a god but as a messanger of god and not even a son of god as u too respect jesus(peace be upon him)i ask u to understand his message clearly-for jesus(pbuh)never claimed to be son of god or even god.
ISLAM is wonderful ma'am once a person converts to ISLAM all his former sins are forgiven and he leads a new life.

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Bombeni, you do realize, do you not, that the Bible contains extremely sexist passages? That is one of the reasons I am not a Fundamentalist. The Bible states that women deserve the pain of childbirth and that they are naturally subservient to their husbands and to men in general. It also states that homosexuals should be stoned (that is where the Fundamentalist Islamic belief comes from, in fact), which even you, as much as you oppose homosexuality, do not believe. The problem in some parts of the Islamic world is that Islam, being a somewhat younger religion and in a different part of the world, has simply not evolved past the literalism that Christian Fundamentalists are trying to reinstate. Yes, Fundamentalist Islam is extremely sexist, but so is Fundamentalist Christianity. You might want to think about that before you condemn all Islamic males.

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Your full of crap. Jesus was God in the flesh and yes he DID state that He was God. You worship the beast. Jesus tried to warn you about that but you have chosen your own path (He said "choose this day whom you will serve") so good luck.

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The Old Testament became null and void, except as a history tool, when Jesus Christ was born. He took the place of the sacrificial lamb from the OT. He came to bear our sins and as a light unto the world. He never said women or homosexuals or even our enemies should be stoned.

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"Who can this be? For He commands even the winds and the waves, and they obey Him." Luke 8:25

But even parts of the New Testament (not Christ's words but rather the Letters) are just as sexist as the Old Testament, and while Christ showed that adultery should not be punished by stoning, if taken literally, the Bible does state that those who engage in sodomy should be stoned and does not contradict itself on this point. Let me put it in this way: Especially in the West and on the peripheries of the Islamic world, there are many practicing Muslims who are more permissive and more socially egalitarian than you are. I don't judge Islam by its Fundamentalists any more than I judge Christianity, which is my faith, by the rants of Falwell and Robertson. According to Pat Robertson, Methodists, Presbyterians and Episcopalians are all part of "the spirit of the anti-Christ" and Robertson also advocated a "godly fumigation" of non-Christian "termites". Falwell, meanwhile, claimed that we are so sinful as a nation that we deserved 9/11. Don't think that those two nuts don't have followings either. If I went to certain highly conservative parts of this country and expressed my dislike for those two, I might well end up being run out of some small towns. You wouldn't want to be judged by what they do, so please don't judge Muslims by the actions of a few fanatics who make the news do.

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Political joined this forum in an effort to enlighten us all to the world of Islam. I was replying to him as with so few other experiences with muslim people I have to assume he is an average muslim male. He has stated he believes homos and adulterers should be stoned and thieves should have their hands cut off. How many Christians do you know that would agree with that? We Christians follow the teachings of Christ, who though could be violent with the Pharisees who were blaspheming His Father's Temple, etc., he preached forgiveness and mercy. It really is an easy concept to grasp, that when He came into the world, all things were made new. The old things passed away. As far as the extremist Christian preachers, sometimes when you are trying to get from point a to point b, you go past b a little. But they are right in their teachings that homosexuality and adultery are sins, because they are. That is WHY Jesus came to the world, to SAVE us from our sins, to bear the punishment of them.

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"Who can this be? For He commands even the winds and the waves, and they obey Him." Luke 8:25

He isn't. He is 20 years old and thinks in 1's and 0's (i.e. no gray areas). I'll be very frank with you, Bombeni. You seem to make this logical error over and over. In algebraic terms, you are presuming that if one "a" is a "b", then all "a's" are "b's". That is like someone who has only seen one cat, and the cat happened to be rabid. They could then presume that all cats are rabid, but that would not be the case. It is an easy logical error to fall into, and it is the source of most prejudice.

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