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Perhaps I should just look for whoever is hiring.?
Good way to start. Keep in mind, your first job doesn't have to be your last.

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Who is the worst: The employers, the co-workers or the customers?
Depends on your personality and the particular store.
I think in a lot of stores, you might actually be more aggravated by employees than customers.
I'd have to say that some employees are usually awful to work with and those are the worst... because you see them daily.
But most of your coworkers will be decent people at least, some even fun to be around.
Customers are aggravating... bu you usually don't see them often... and the regular customers tend to be happier with the store and thus... nice. A skilled customer service person can learn to alter the moods of most people to a more positive one. But some people are just mean.
But you'll cherish the nice ones (some nice people are annoying and stupid... but you'll learn to accept these things, because it beats mean).
I've never had a problem with employers or managers. But I've heard horror stories.
If your employer is awful seek a new job.


When you go for a new job, do it somewhat covertly and don't quit until you have a sure thing. Try to give two weeks notice, but don't obsess with it. Your employer will never show such courtesy to you in a low-end job.
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Well, if money wasn't a concern, the careers I would most enjoy would be these:

1. Filmmaker
2. Photographer
3. Fiction Author
4. Lyricist
5. Actor
akc814ilv was right about college. Start off with a class or two you enjoy though... Because if you're starting a job also, you'll need low stress in order to get used to it. Dip your feet in the water before submerging completely.
If you can, try to get a job with a photographer or something... But also try working in a video store. Easy job. You'll get used to dealing with people... and it's about movies. Watching movies... even ones you hate... is critical to learning to work on them just as reading is critical to writing. The job will help you learn to focus on and talk about the subtleties of film arts in addition to basic work skills and money.

In college and at work, you'll need to focus on networking... That's something I was never good at. The careers you mention very much involve knowing people and institutions that can get you connected. At the very least, make friends with your fellow students with similar career goals.
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Your list of interests suggests that you should study English/creative writing and take additional classes in photography and filmmaking. You can always switch majors if your interests lean more toward one thing than another. Often, people find a particular professor who is powerfully influential.

Perhaps, you would do well, someday, working for a magazine (editor? contributor?)
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better yet, who has THE job that you would like to do?
Well, if money wasn't a concern, the careers I would most enjoy would be these:

1. Filmmaker
2. Photographer
3. Fiction Author
4. Lyricist
5. Actor

None of those careers constitute practical goals, however. I'll keep your specific recommendations in mind. I know a bit about business law and a fair amount about psychology. I'm not sure whether I could take the emotional strain of counseling the mentally ill, however.
You should consider something in foreign languages. An interpreter comes to mind, only requires foreign language training and not college. You could work for a private company or government and would be a low stress job. I know an interpreter who works for a software company using his language skills to program translation software.
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Wow! Thank you so very much for the advice. I'd best also get some input from my parents- particularly my father, since he went from job to job until finding an incredibly boring and bureaucratic but very secure government job. A secure, steady income is definitely my top priority. One can't eat self-actualization.
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since he went from job to job until finding an incredibly boring and bureaucratic but very secure government job.
Sounds like me!
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Whether I choose to go to college or not, I need to have some idea what sort of career I'm aiming for. I have no vocational training of any sort and, apart from a bit of volunteering at a thrift shop, I've never had anything resembling an ordinary job. I'll describe my basic abilities and disabilities without bravado or false modesty, since I recognize that self-deceit is the leading cause of bad career choices.

My assets are the following. I have above average intelligence. Specifically, I'm skilled at constructing and deconstructing ideas, seeing alternatives and understanding multiple levels of meaning (metaphors, for example). My spatial sense is my intellect's weakest link. I'm no better than average at mentally manipulating objects. I have some potential in philosophy, social sciences and creative writing, I suspect, but I understand that careers in those fields are difficult to obtain. If all else fails, I'm fairly large and can do heavy lifting.

My primary liabilities are my emotions. While I can, with effort, control them in normal circumstances, if I were in a career that put me under extraordinary stress, I am certain that I would crack. I tend towards panic, depression, paranoia and rage, and any career that demands near perfect psychological health is just not for me.

My other weakness is that I tend to be somewhat absent-minded. My mind is seldom where my body is. Most of the time I am theorizing, predicting, speculating and so forth, and so I am in some sense impractical. I can discipline my mind to focus on the here and now, but it isn't something that comes naturally.

Given these strengths and weakness, what sort of career should I be thinking about? Moreover, what type of tertiary education (if any) would be best for obtaining such a career? I'm grateful for all replies and advice. Thank you very much.
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Thank you very much. I think those would be good fits, but I'm not sure what master's and doctorate degrees cost. When I last checked, I had about $15,000 to my name.
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Thank you very much. I think those would be good fits, but I'm not sure what master's and doctorate degrees cost. When I last checked, I had about $15,000 to my name.

They will cost quite a bit of money. But thats why you apply for government grants (dont have to pay them back) or for student loans (you DO have to pay those back, however you can set up payment plans, including ones where you dont start paying until AFTER you graduate)

Seriously though, go down to your local community college or university and talk to a counselor. That is the BEST advice I can give you.

After I left the Marine Corps, I was seriously lost man. I didn't know what to do with my life and I was just bouncing around from job to job, constantly starting at the bottom each time. Finally I decided to go down to my community college and talk to a counselor. We went over what my interests were, what I enjoyed doing, what sort of hours I would want to work, what sort of pay range I was looking for, and what my academic strengths and weaknesses were, and after all of that we found a career path that I have been working towards that I think will be extremely exciting, and also make me fairly financially secure.

The first step is always the hardest. Just convince yourself to get down there, go talk to someone at the school and find out what would work best for you. ONLY good things can come from it.
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Thank you very much. I think those would be good fits, but I'm not sure what master's and doctorate degrees cost. When I last checked, I had about $15,000 to my name.
Deal with your Bachelor's first. Look into Master's programs while you do that.
Most people I know with Master's degrees didn't pay a dime... They worked it off. You can usually get an assistantship program where you work many, many hours for the prof... but you get the classes paid for and a little money for bills (don't acquire any debt that cannot be deferred- they don't pay much).
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