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Old 05-08-2008, 11:16 PM
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It isn't though, is it? If you got pregnant and the man who got you pregnant wanted you to have an abortion, what could he do? Nothing! "It is the woman's body, and her decision"

It is not an issue about sexism or responsibility. It is about personal choice. I would have no desire to be involved, why should I be forced into it? It is not supporting the child, because the child will not know if you were their at the birth or the prenatal classes or not. the child will only know if the father was there for them in life, and if they are what difference does this make.

My opinion is that women make men go, because they don't want to have to explain to everyone else why the father isn't their. If you tell the other women he doesn't want to, they will all judge you right! Or it is because they don't want to be their alone, and if that is the case why can't the man catch up on his reading!
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:20 PM
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Actually you know what else is spinning me out about all this? It appears that going through the pregnancy, labour, preterm education and everything else is apparently solely the woman's responsibility, and if she's lucky the father of her child might reluctantly show up to be supportive - if he has to - however if that same woman decides she might want an abortion all of a sudden she shouldn't have any control over the situation at all, and the men have a LOT to say about it, and it's got nothing to do with her or what she wants.

Interesting....
How so? The man has no say! this is what chris rock has to say, and it is very true! It is not at the beginning, so you have to be patient! And he is right all we can say is "so what you gonna do?"


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I'm more interested in why you would have no desire to go? It might not be supportive of the child - but you are telling me you have no desire to support the mother of your child?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you agree to have sex, and neither of you use contraception, and you get pregnant, and you agree to keep the baby, how then is it ok for you not to be involved in the process?
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Besides I don't believe you anyway. I bet if you were having a baby and the situation with you and your partner was good you'd want to be involved. It's very exciting and profound - for both of you.
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Hey, at least he showed up in support of his wife.

See, no matter what a man does for you women, it's just never enough......
I know how you feel BB next they will want us to give birth
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I'm more interested in why you would have no desire to go? It might not be supportive of the child - but you are telling me you have no desire to support the mother of your child?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you agree to have sex, and neither of you use contraception, and you get pregnant, and you agree to keep the baby, how then is it ok for you not to be involved in the process?

I was involved in the process, and it would have probably lasted around 10 minutes! You sound like a conservative now! Just because those are your values, that does not mean everyone needs to share those values.

There will be many activities throughout a child's life where one parent will be more involved than the other. I have a 10 year old nephew, and my sister didn't marry his father until he was 6. He lived with us for about 3 years, and he is like the little brother I never had. I support him a whole lot, but I wasn't even at the hospital when he was born.
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Besides I don't believe you anyway. I bet if you were having a baby and the situation with you and your partner was good you'd want to be involved. It's very exciting and profound - for both of you.

Oh I if I ever have a baby, I am sure I will go, but not because I want to. But because I don't like to argue unless it is something I think is important. Where I believe there is no reason I should be their. It is not something I would oppose enough to not go. But I can guarantee one thing, I will not be in the delivery room when the baby is born!!!!!!
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Oh I if I ever have a baby, I am sure I will go, but not because I want to. But because I don't like to argue unless it is something I think is important. Where I believe there is no reason I should be their. It is not something I would oppose enough to not go. But I can guarantee one thing, I will not be in the delivery room when the baby is born!!!!!!
Is that because it would freak you out?
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Yes breastfeeding is covered - but mostly it's what to expect during labour. You know, the three stages, things that can go wrong, the types of interventions you can have, caesarian sections (both elective and emergency), features of the newborn, how long it generally takes - the whole thing.
Sounds interesting - do you get to watch that video of an actual childbirth that is meant to scare you witless and vow never to have anymore children?
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