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Old 07-18-2008, 09:39 AM
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I love Depeche Mode and am not ashamed of that pick at all.

Pink, I do like her...she has a good voice and many of her songs I like too but there are some that are overly dramatic so I have some level of embarrassment about that.

I loved No Doubt and Gwen Stefani was a real favorite and THEN...her solo career, UGH! She really started out great and then she went cheesy commercial.

I am truly ashamed but there are a few (maybe 3) Mariah Carey songs that I like.

Amy Winehouse has a great voice and some really good music so I cant say I am embarrassed that I like her stuff, but because she is such an amazing mess its now outshining her talent and her music.

I love 80's music (pop and all of it). I know I should be embarassed, but I'm not! hehehe.
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:49 AM
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Pink, I do like her...she has a good voice and many of her songs I like too but there are some that are overly dramatic so I have some level of embarrassment about that.
I like her because she's actually a "strong female" alternative to Britney. She actually is. I guess she does wear skimpy clothing but she attacks patriarchy and makes it a point that she does not need a man.
She speaks intelligently and does well with satire.
She is the intellectual's mindless pop music icon.

Contrast with Avril Lavigne who's supposed to be the "anti-Britney" but is basically reaffirming all the same patriarchal values under a false guise of pseudo-punk and "tough girl" BS. And that's not the only reason she sucks!
At least Britney is what she is. She's Trailer Trash Barbie. But honest.
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Old 07-18-2008, 10:09 AM
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I like her because she's actually a "strong female" alternative to Britney. She actually is. I guess she does wear skimpy clothing but she attacks patriarchy and makes it a point that she does not need a man.
She speaks intelligently and does well with satire.
She is the intellectual's mindless pop music icon.

Contrast with Avril Lavigne who's supposed to be the "anti-Britney" but is basically reaffirming all the same patriarchal values under a false guise of pseudo-punk and "tough girl" BS. And that's not the only reason she sucks!
At least Britney is what she is. She's Trailer Trash Barbie. But honest.
LOL trailer trash barbie...I think you could market that! Its accurate

Well Pink gets respect because she does actually WRITE her lyrics and she has a good voice. She can be overly dramatic...but I can forgive that She does have a good streak of satire and humor.

I always liked TLC....
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LOL trailer trash barbie...I think you could market that!
Too late.
http://blogs.ebay.com/debmon5/entry/...0QQidZ77493018
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I would put the Who in first place for being overated.

I guess if i like someone's music I wouldn't be that ashamed of it.
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OK. First off, Metallica. Although they have totally degraded over time, their albums Ride The Lightning and Master Of Puppets are absolutely brilliant and terrifying. The track "Trapped Under Ice" alone from the former completely encapsulates the sensation of the same in song, and in my opinion, few bands can compete with such a sonic assault even to this day.

The Rolling Stones have done exactly the same, but they are the original bad boys. Although they have a multitude of throw-away songs (e.g. "Silver Train", "Jigsaw Puzzle", etc.), their shortfalls are overshadowed by their prolific catalogue that contains undeniable classics like "Street Fighting Man" and "Mother's Little Helper", the latter being one of the most precocious and dead-on commentaries in rock music. Catchy as all heck, too.

Led Zeppelin has gifted rock music with the richest of legacies, and Bonzo was the paradigm of rock drummers. Jimmy Page worked alchemy with regards to recording, and their compositions drew from myriads of rustic styles while establishing new frontiers.

These are the seasons of emotion
And like the wind, their ides fall
This is the wonder of devotion
I see the torch we all must hold
This is the mystery of the quotient:
Upon us all a little rain must fall

Sublime.

Pink Floyd. One day I was playing Dark Side Of The Moon on the stereo. My mother was in the kitchen. She's 79 and is an avid church-goer, just to give you an idea. She said it was nice and asked me what it was. She listened as well. After the end of the song "Time" where they have that little reprise of "Breathe", she asked me to rewind to hear these lyrics:

Far away across the fields
The tolling of the iron bells
Calls the faithful to their knees
To whisper softly spoken magic spells

She said, "That's clever. They are European, right?" "Yes", I responded. "They are speaking about the Angelus." I reflected on that for a bit, and Pink Floyd to me became even cooler than they already were.

I should not even have to defend the Beatles. Their musical evolution appointed them the lysergic escorts through a musical panorama that spanned apoplectic chaos ("Helter Skelter"), somewhat disturbing revelry ("Birthday"), carefree merriment ("Good Day Sunshine"), and eternal hope ("All You Need Is Love"). Their extensive repertoire finds appeal in every age group, and they remain relevant to this day. The stories behind their songs are even cool. For example, John Lennon was tripping with Peter Fonda, and Peter suddenly said, "I know what it's like to be dead". John replied, "You're making me feel like I've never been born." Switching gender to sound more interesting, "She Said She Said" followed. Beyond cool. They are the flagship of Britain's contributions to rock, and music in general.

The Who, in my opinion, were the original shock-rockers. Roger Daltrey in a tub of baked beans, Keith Moon eating pills like potato chips, and Pete Townsend throwing muses onstage scared parents out of their wits. But for all of their fury, the visionary Pete Townsend possessed the ability to musically eviscerate himself for the world to see his inherent vulnerability and witness disturbing pictures of childhood trauma (e.g. "Behind Blue Eyes", "Fiddle About", "See Me, Feel Me, Touch Me") but with muscular bravado nonpareil. The Who's gift to rock was their sensitivity and humanness combined with Wagnerian grandiosity. Even after all this, punk rockers loved them. Now that's an achievement.

Rush is in a class of their own, even among prog-rock acts. Their sheet music is almost a page of black spatter, yet every note is soundly allocated. Each of Rush's musicians is a virtuoso at his craft; never overplaying, but rigorously following his role in the creation of their elaborate soundscapes utilizing his own inimitable style. Their musical wizardry has earned them a devoted cult following. Those who unwaveringly hate Rush usually do not play an instrument at a reasonable level of skill.

There are of course acts nowadays that deserve attention, but to deride the original masters is to love the product while hating the factory. Any group nowadays owes deference to at least one of these progenitors.
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OK. First off, Metallica. Although they have totally degraded over time, their albums Ride The Lightning and Master Of Puppets are absolutely brilliant and terrifying. The track "Trapped Under Ice" alone from the former completely encapsulates the sensation of the same in song, and in my opinion, few bands can compete with such a sonic assault even to this day..
Meh. They were the band that made underground thrash metal mainstream. That is their contribution. The more mainstream they became, the more they sucked... and then they got even worse when they tried to be metal again! (St. Anger did achieve what its title suggests... It angered me).
Slayer, Megadeth, Anthrax, Metal Church, Testament, and a whole lot of bands that no one remembers were their equals... just not as commercially motivated and thus they rode on Metallica's wave into the mainstream.

I give Metallica credit for opening that door.
They get many negative points because Ulrich is one of the worse metal drummers EVER!!!

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The Rolling Stones have done exactly the same, but they are the original bad boys. Although they have a multitude of throw-away songs (e.g. "Silver Train", "Jigsaw Puzzle", etc.), their shortfalls are overshadowed by their prolific catalogue that contains undeniable classics like "Street Fighting Man" and "Mother's Little Helper", the latter being one of the most precocious and dead-on commentaries in rock music. Catchy as all heck, too..
They did set the "rocker" scene and balance out the Beatles vile "mod" scene. They are catchy. But musical geniuses? Not by any means.
Again they are a band more noteworthy for commercial skills than musical ability.

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Led Zeppelin was awesome and important. In this case the overrated status is entirely because the hype is so pervasive.
And Robert Plant sucks.
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Green Day.

I'm not really embarassed to still like 'em. I just keep it to myself. But there is nothing like driving down a stretch of Hwy. 80 with the windows down in a 1989 Chevy 1-ton flatbed, smoking a fat one and "American Idiot" blarring outa a Bose system
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