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Old 03-08-2006, 09:13 PM
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U.N.: Jewish Settlers Harass Palestinians
By BRADLEY S. KLAPPER , 03.08.2006, 07:35 AM

Jewish settlers are terrorizing Palestinians with impunity, attacking children on their way to school and destroying farmers' trees and crops, a U.N. expert on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict said in a report.

John Dugard, a South African lawyer, called the withdrawal of Israeli troops and settlers from the Gaza Strip last summer a positive step. But the Jewish state effectively controls Gaza through targeted killings and sonic booms from warplanes flying over the region, Dugard said in a report prepared ahead of next week's annual meeting of the 53-member U.N. Human Rights Commission.

Itzhak Levanon, Israel's U.N. ambassador in Geneva, rejected Dugard's allegations as "misinformed and inaccurate."

Dugard's report "is guided by a clear political agenda, and bears little relation either to the facts or existing principles of international law," Levanon said in an e-mailed statement to The Associated Press.

Israel has previously rejected Dugard's reports on the Palestinian-Israeli dispute as being one-sided, noting that he has been assigned only to investigate violations by the Israeli side.

Dugard said settler violence has been particularly egregious in the West Bank city of Hebron. His 22-page report made no reference to Palestinian terrorism, but said Hebron settlers "terrorize the few Palestinians that have not left the old city and assault and traumatize children on the way to school."

"It seems that settlers are able to terrorize Palestinians and destroy their trees and crops with impunity," Dugard said, adding that he himself was a victim of settler abuse while visiting the city in June 2005.

Dugard prepares regular reports for the U.N.'s human rights watchdog during visits to the region, but receives no cooperation from the Israeli government.

Next week's meeting comes as U.N. member states debate replacing the discredited Human Rights Commission with a new body. The commission has been widely criticized for allowing some of the worst rights-offending countries to use their membership to shield each other from condemnation.

Dugard filed his report before Hamas won Palestinian elections in January and made no mention of the Islamic militant group, which is sworn to Israel's destruction and refuses to renounce violence.

The report "ignores the fact that the Hamas, considered as a terrorist organization by the family of nations, controls the Palestinian authority and disregards the enormous efforts done by Israel to fight this terrorism while preserving humanitarian law and human rights," Levanon said.

Dugard said Israel's actions in Gaza violated the Geneva Conventions on warfare, which forbid "all measures of intimidation or of terrorism" against civilians in time of war.

In the first three months after the Gaza withdrawal, targeted assassinations by Israeli defense forces in the territory killed 18 civilians and injured 81, in addition to killing 15 militants.

Palestinians have launched rockets from Gaza against southern Israeli towns, and Israel has retaliated with artillery fire and airstrikes.

Hamas has observed a yearlong moratorium on suicide and shooting attacks. But Israeli Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz warned Tuesday that Hamas leaders, including the incoming Palestinian prime minister, will not be immune from pinpointed Israeli killings if the group were to resume attacks.
If you don't trust the UN, here's what Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have to say about Israel's "security fence"…
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The construction of the fence/wall inside the Occupied Territories violates international law and is causing grave human rights violations.

Although Israel claims that it is intended to block entry into Israel to Palestinian suicide bombers and other potential attackers, most of the fence/wall (close to 90%) does not run between Israel and the Occupied Territories but inside the West Bank, turning Palestinian towns and villages into isolated enclaves, cutting off communities and families from each other, separating farmers from their land and Palestinians from their places of work, education and health care facilities and other essential services.

As a result, the Palestinian economy has virtually collapsed. Unemployment has soared to close to 40%, two thirds of the Palestinian population is now living below the poverty line, and malnutrition and other health problems are spreading. Most Palestinians are now forced to rely, to some degree at least, on charity for food and other basic needs.
…and Israel's "wholesale" destruction of homes.
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Over the past four years, the Israeli military has demolished over 2,500 Palestinian houses in the occupied Gaza Strip.3 Nearly two-thirds of these homes were in Rafah, a densely populated refugee camp and city at the southern end of the Gaza Strip on the border with Egypt. Sixteen thousand people — more than ten percent of Rafah’s population — have lost their homes, most of them refugees, many of whom were dispossessed for a second or third time.4

As satellite images in this report show, most of the destruction in Rafah occurred along the Israeli-controlled border between the Gaza Strip and Egypt. During regular nighttime raids and with little or no warning, Israeli forces used armored Caterpillar D9 bulldozers to raze blocks of homes at the edge of the camp, incrementally expanding a “buffer zone” that is currently up to three hundred meters wide. The pattern of destruction strongly suggests that Israeli forces demolished homes wholesale, regardless of whether they posed a specific threat, in violation of international law. In most of the cases Human Rights Watch found the destruction was carried out in the absence of military necessity.
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Why should I? I've seen this sort of anti-Semitic propaganda in the media before, so I'm not going to waste my time with it.
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Its not anti-semitic Force and I find it funny how you ignore it when Israel does things but condemn the US for actions that pale in comparison to the policies Israel uses against Palestinians.

Does Israel take people away without trial?..yes

Do they torture?..yes

Do they terrorize the civilian Palestinian popuation?--yes

Do they "illegallly" lands that are not theirs by any recognized treaty?..yes.

The list goes on and on and on..why do you give them a pass?..why is the Geneva Conventions a "quaint" document when it comes to them?

If the Palestinans where Jewish would you accept it?..if not..well then WTH??
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Israel, unlike the United States, really is in a constant state of war, and Israel is fighting just to exist. I have no objection to anything Israel has done, and knowing what I do about the anti-Semitic bias in the media, I don't buy into its sympathetic portrayals of the Palestinians.
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Dont you know that this has been going on for a very, very long time? Sorry to disappoint you, Force, but this is sadly all too true...or do Palestinians not qualify for 'human' rights?
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I don't consider groups like Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch to be trustworthy, since they have agenda other than protecting human rights. Moreover, this thread I started is an example of the AP's anti-Semitism:

http://www.politicalforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15098
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I don't consider groups like Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch to be trustworthy, since they have agenda other than protecting human rights. Moreover, this thread I started is an example of the AP's anti-Semitism:

http://www.politicalforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15098
If you will not believe that such events occur, because you will not believe such events occur...well, then, there is little left to say...they are all conspirators and liars, I suppose....
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Israel, unlike the United States, really is in a constant state of war, and Israel is fighting just to exist.
I agree--and it's true because Israel chooses to violate international law in many ways every day, as evidenced by this thread.

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I don't consider groups like Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch to be trustworthy, since they have agenda other than protecting human rights.
Given that standard of trustworthiness, what sources do you trust? Also, what other agenda do Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have?
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The US is in a constant state of war and has been since 9/11 and is struggling to preserve the lives of its citizens.


Either Israel can do this and so can we or neither can... which is it going to be?
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