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View Poll Results: Do you believe in Creationism/Evolution for the origin of man?
Creationism 40 24.84%
Evolution 114 70.81%
Not Sure 7 4.35%
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Old 03-13-2006, 08:12 AM
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Chalk up another for "both", though I'm not a Christian. I do think that there is some force guiding change, whether it be planned or experimental (I tend toward the latter), but I do believe in that change.
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For anybody possibly confused by the link http://creationscience.com/, creationism is not science. The claim that it is only hurts the cause by intentionally trying to mislead people.
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I don't think they are trying to mislead people. They are accused of having no scientific support for their position. I haven't looked deeply into the website, but I believe it's merely their rebuttal.

From “The Origin of Life,” Scientific American by George Wald:
"The reasonable view [during the two centuries before Louis Pasteur] was to believe in spontaneous generation; the only alternative, to believe in a single, primary act of supernatural creation. There is no third position.

One has only to contemplate the magnitude of this task to concede that the spontaneous generation of a living organism is impossible. Yet here we are—as a result, I believe, of spontaneous generation."
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I don't think they are trying to mislead people.
Creation Science...that implies that the subject of the site is science concerning creation. There is no such science. Therefore, they are attempting to mislead.
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For anybody possibly confused by the link http://creationscience.com/, creationism is not science. The claim that it is only hurts the cause by intentionally trying to mislead people.
That's what my biology teacher said! You two may be on to something...
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I am personally turned off to anyone with the belief that non-beleivers are immoral and will go to Hell. I know plenty of good people who aren't necessarily religious. Likewise, I know many immoral people who claim to be religious. Religion is acceptable, but just like anything else it's divine meaning and rational is destroyed as you stray from the main-stream practices. Take for instance the Sunni bombing of the Askarya Shrine based solely on the want for secretarian mayhem. It was likely done by extreme Shias. This has resulted in a likely Sunni-Shia divviding line in the Middle East that may simply make political stability unrealistic and destroy the idea that democracy can take roots. Religion and politics need to be separate, especially in the Middle East.
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I am personally turned off to anyone with the belief that non-beleivers are immoral and will go to Hell.
Say that again and you'll go to Hell. (just joking)

Nice points, viper910. My father is also a great man but refuses to accept any form of religion. I don't think he will go to Hell, though. I actually think Hell is an illusion set in everyone's minds to make up or punish for their sins.
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Hello? Uhh just thought I'd let you know that creationism is not a valid theory because it has NO scienctific proof while on the other hand evolution has proof and is a valid theory.
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Hello? Uhh just thought I'd let you know that creationism is not a valid theory because it has NO scienctific proof while on the other hand evolution has proof and is a valid theory.
And ultimately science has to do with what? Evolution doesn't discuss creation in any shape or form. It doesn't explain how life was created, or how atoms first became into existence, or any of the other great mysterious of the world. Science is a weak theory to put your world views behind, its nothing more then weighing, measuring, and organizing the world into different categories and sub categories. Ultimately though science is unable to answer the true mysteries of the world. Human reason even on a collective level only works so far, and ultimatly isunable to answer such questions.
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And ultimately science has to do with what?
lol this is like asking "And ultimately what do facts have to do with what?"
Anyone who has passed grade school knows that science explains how atoms make up the universe and humans are complex cell organisms that evolved from simple cell organisms

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Evolution doesn't discuss creation in any shape or form.
That's why it's compared with creationism right? Ever heard of the big bang? Look it up.


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It doesn't explain how life was created, or how atoms first became into existence, or any of the other great mysterious of the world. Science is a weak theory to put your world views behind,
If it's weak, than why does it have facts to back it up? I know you conservatives tend to dislike reason, validity, and facts but bear with me on this one. atoms came into exsistence through the big bang. Simple as that.

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its nothing more then weighing, measuring, and organizing the world into different categories and sub categories.
Nothing more that facts and factual stuff that tells the truth and junk.

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Ultimately though science is unable to answer the true mysteries of the world. Human reason even on a collective level only works so far, and ultimatly isunable to answer such questions.
err.. yeah
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