Creationism Vs Evolution

viper910 · #1 (**permalink**) 03-10-2006, 08:54 PM

Do you believe in Creationism/Evolution for the origin of man?

ForceoftheTruth · #2 (**permalink**) 03-10-2006, 09:06 PM

Well, I think evolution is correct, but I am also a Christian, so I support the theory of theistic evolution, i.e. the idea that God designed the process of evolution. However, since the term creationism implies a rejection of evolution, I voted for evolution.

nawbut · #3 (**permalink**) 03-11-2006, 02:49 AM

well, I know we are here...or, I know I am here...or well, at least I know there is a here...oh ****....where am I?...cogito ergo sum (aahhh)

Hansmoleman · #4 (**permalink**) 03-12-2006, 03:41 PM

I believe in evolution, but as a liberal Christian (one that does not believe in the literal interpretation of the Genesis story) I believe that those who believe in intelligent design are perfectly within their rights to believe as they do and to teach their children as such. Just teach both and let people decide what they think is right.

Last-Independent · #5 (**permalink**) 03-12-2006, 04:33 PM

You might want to put a "both" option up there. I don't know if it's just me, but can't both happen?

Knowing only the basics of Christianity (excuse my ignorance), I will explain it so:

The Bible says God created Earth. Darwin says man evolved from other beings. Bible says it took seven days. Darwin said it took billions of years.

Now, I am not saying the Bible nor Darwin are politically correct, but can't they be on the same page? Maybe God's seven days had been a figure of speech, if you will, which actually accounted for billions of years.

Thoughts, anyone?

viper910 · #6 (**permalink**) 03-12-2006, 04:49 PM

I personally like you Independent have only a brief knowledge of the religion. I do believe in a combo of the two. I believe in the evolution of a creature over time yet I believein God too. The point is Darwinism or evolution I should say is a theory. Thus it lacks FULL scientific proof. I believe in God but believe a person can be moral and religious and that all good, loving people go to Heaven.

Evolution is missing a piece needed to prove the theory. This missing piece actually is what created the legend of BigFoot. He was I've heard the missing skull/piece of the theory.

Last-Independent · #7 (**permalink**) 03-12-2006, 04:55 PM

You had me worked up at the beginning! I started reading your post and saw:

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I personally like you Independent .

Then I read on and realized you don't like me. You have my same ideals.

Poo, I though I had a friend.

viper910 · #8 (**permalink**) 03-12-2006, 05:10 PM

Lol Independent. You can be my friend I have to admit I didn't see that coming. Then I saw your quote. Very Funny

rockyreagan · #9 (**permalink**) 03-12-2006, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Last-Independent";p=&quot

You might want to put a "both" option up there. I don't know if it's just me, but can't both happen?

Knowing only the basics of Christianity (excuse my ignorance), I will explain it so:

The Bible says God created Earth. Darwin says man evolved from other beings. Bible says it took seven days. Darwin said it took billions of years.

Now, I am not saying the Bible nor Darwin are politically correct, but can't they be on the same page? Maybe God's seven days had been a figure of speech, if you will, which actually accounted for billions of years.

Thoughts, anyone?

Yes thats my opinion and the opinion of the Catholic Church. We as Catholics, don't believe that anyone can fully understand how God does what he does, unless he wants to show us. That is the power of the Holy Spirit, its guides the Church and humanity down our path of knowledge. We study, learn, observe, debate, categorize, theorize, about God's creations all the time, in fact most early Scientist where deeply religious men who simply wanted to better understand how God created our world, this is believed will bring us closer to the grace of God. I don't know how many modern scientist now fell that way, but for me its how I feel about science. Their is nothing that man can discover that will disprove the existence of God, or the teaching of my belief. Evolution doesn't do it, the big bang theory doesn't do it. No scientific theory does it. In the end Science is only the best man can use his God-given reason, talents, and imagination to observe, theorize and test, ideas about the world around him that God created. That in itself has its limits, because when one starts talking about the spiritual world, you are going beyond what you can pounder with simple reason, or ideas. You moved beyond what can be weighted and measured, and classified. That is where the atheist, the agnostic, and the rest divided ourselves.

The Atheist says I can no longer discover anymore, therefor I can't prove it so it must not exists.

The Agnostic says, that is true but it maybe possible that we simply are unable to understand what is beyond what we can discover on this world, and although I'm not willing to believe their is anything beyond what we can reason, I'm not going to reject that anything isn't beyond it.

Then the rest of us the believe in something beyond reason and what we can see say, their are answers to problems that we are unable to discover here, no amount of reason or accumulated human knowledge is going to change that. Matter can not be made or destroyed, and yet it is, so how did it get here? This can not be understood by reason, how the universe came to be big bang or not can not be fully explain. What caused the Big bang? If it was particles such as hydrogen and oxygen, and a explosion where did that matter come from, and how exactly did the explosion start? For the rest of us this is when we say, their is something beyond what we can figure out, perhaps we weren't meant to figure it out, perhaps we simply have to move ourselves beyond the physical realm perhaps it is beyond a known state of conscious. Fact is we don't know what that rout is, or how to get to it but it must exist.

So does evolution, or science in general destroy my faith? No, simply measuring and weighing, and theorizing about, the known world and universe around us does not in my mind somehow disprove my beliefs. If anything its strengths them, because it shows that man can only go so far, and only some many questions can be answered by the field of science, and as long as those over questions remain, and reason can not answer them the answer must lie within a different field of thought, study, or being, and that is faith.

The12thMan · #10 (**permalink**) 03-12-2006, 08:20 PM

Plenty of interesting stuff can be found here for those who want to study a bit further.

View Poll Results: Do you believe in Creationism/Evolution for the origin of man?
Creationism	40	25.00%
Evolution	113	70.63%
Not Sure	7	4.38%
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