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View Poll Results: How Much Should the United States Participate in the United Nations?
The United States Should Leave the U.N. 6 46.15%
The United States Should Have Less Involvement in the U.N. 1 7.69%
The United States Should Have Roughly Its Current Level of Involvement in the U.N. 0 0%
The United States Should Have More Involvement in the U.N. 6 46.15%
None of the Above (Please Explain) 0 0%
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Old 04-06-2006, 01:20 PM
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For now, I think that we should stay in the United Nations but not participate in the political disputes and work only in the humanitarian aid projects. I think that we should expand our role in those, however. I recognize that simply stating the "amount" of support you have for our participation in the U.N. is overly simplistic, but you can elaborate on your stance in a reply. Overall, although I support staying in the United Nations, I support less involvement with it. I appreciate all votes and replies. Thank you very much.
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The odd part about US-UN relations is that any point in which the US has been in good relations with the US, it has been calling the shots often to its own advantage. In such cases the US has often managed to keep itself from being held to the standards that everyone else involved was expected to be held to. When we did give anything up, it was to keep the loyalty of allies during the Cold War. Now that we don't think we need our allies, we don't give anything up. But they are more assertive that we should.
In other words, the US has never really been a part of the UN except when dominating it. It would be better for everyone if the US left. Us because we'd no longer have to pretend that we care. Everyone else because they will learn to work together better without us trying to strongarm. In the longrun I hope to see the US see a need for good relations again and a new, better planned out international organization to replace the UN.
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I support participating in certain U.N. aid projects, but we should work with the U.N. only at our discretion.
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I support participating in certain U.N. aid projects, but we should work with the U.N. only at our discretion.
That's my point. It's like we're married but we're allowed to cheat and they're not. When we find a new job, we move before we talk to them about it. It's a dysfunctional relationship. A divorce is in order. Look at the effect this sad relationship has on the children.l
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I think that the US should stop crying alone in its bedroom, bring back the ball that it ran away with, come back to the park, and lets all get on with the game....
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We should not be allied with oppressive nations. Period. The UN amounts to an unofficial alliance. We should withdrawn on that basis alone.

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As an Israeli who knows the history between the UN and Israel,Israel should never trust the UN,and the ties shouldn't be strong.....Goes to the UN and the US as well.
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Surely if one approves of international law then the UN is the only game in town.

I think the US should engage fully.

Reform? Perhaps but I think much of the UN`s problems stem from the fact that it often acts in it`s own best interests rather than the `common good`.

How reforms might tackle this problem I`ve no idea.

So whilst the UN is flawed I don`t see that as a reason to reject it. After all our democratic institutions (on both sides of the Atlantic) have flaws but no-one suggests we should just trash them and walk away
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Surely if one approves of international law then the UN is the only game in town.

I think the US should engage fully.

Reform? Perhaps but I think much of the UN`s problems stem from the fact that it often acts in it`s own best interests rather than the `common good`.

How reforms might tackle this problem I`ve no idea.

So whilst the UN is flawed I don`t see that as a reason to reject it. After all our democratic institutions (on both sides of the Atlantic) have flaws but no-one suggests we should just trash them and walk away
And do tell, why should we follow the rules of a international bureaucracies greatly separated from the American people. Do you believe international law should surpass the laws written in the Constitution? If a American is charged with a crime by this international bureaucracy should he suddenly lose his Constitutional rights and be tried under "international law". Why should we subvert our national sovereignty to a international bureaucracy where our people have almost zero influence and international politics reigns supreme?
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I can understand gripes with the political dimensions of the UN, even though I disagree, I can understand where they come from. But the UN does do lots, and lots of humanitarian work that if the UN doesn't do, nobody will.

The UN is not solely the Security council, it has countless other facets.
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