Thread: Polygamy

Originally Posted by Wildjoker5

So how can it not work? If there are several wives, and few work and few stay home tending to the children, wouldn't it make it eaiser to home school and get the kids out of the failing liberal public school system?

makes sense. cuts down on needy psycho homewreckers too.

Why not? Is discrimination ok in some instances when all parties are consenting adaults but not in others?

apparently.




So far, Gay marriage is a-OK but Polyamy marriages are Devil spawn?


kinda twisted logic people. carry on.

Originally Posted by CKW

Marriage is not a "church" thing. If that were the case---it would be unconstitutional. Its a policy thing with a purpose to encourage a strong future through strong families.

good point.


but I gotta ask you, what does Gay marriage encourage?

Originally Posted by CKW

If we are talking about Mormans---maybe. But for the secular crowd we are just encouraging the concept of orgies.

What's the difference? what makes Mormons so special?

Yes. Discrimination is a good thing and you practice it everyday. To not be able to discriminate behaviors would be a rather idiotic society--and self-destructive at that.

But this ^ is what's happening daily. deterioration of values. aka gay marriage.

Originally Posted by CKW

Marriage is not a "church" thing. If that were the case---it would be unconstitutional. Its a policy thing with a purpose to encourage a strong future through strong families.

The perpose is taxes and property rights, those are the reason the state got involved in it. Strong families and the future had nothing or at least very little to do with it.

As to the marriage being or not being a "Church" thing that is something me and you will never agree on. I consider marraige the binding of two souls in the sight of God. Anything else is just the state sticking its nose were it does not belong.

Originally Posted by Crawdadr

The perpose is taxes and property rights, those are the reason the state got involved in it. Strong families and the future had nothing or at least very little to do with it.

Pretty much.

As to the marriage being or not being a "Church" thing that is something me and you will never agree on. I consider marraige the binding of two souls in the sight of God. Anything else is just the state sticking its nose were it does not belong.

Hammer

Originally Posted by 4Horsemen

What's the difference? what makes Mormons so special?

Mormans at least have a moral code that can keep things structured, beneficial for children and spouses and keep the group family centered.

Morality is considered out-dated and restrictive to the secular crowd. A lack of morals leads to self-gratification, selfishness, irresponsiblity and broken families. For the secular crowd it would begin with an orgie and the prospect of a family centered attitude from all the parties is not realistic.,

Originally Posted by 4Horsemen

But this ^ is what's happening daily. deterioration of values. aka gay marriage.

I'm not sure what your point is here.

Crawdadr-

Marriage should be delt with on the Church leval.

A marriage is a legal contract, and governments determine the legal aspects of any contract. Many people like to sign that contract during a religious ceremony, but that doesn't make it any more valid/binding. In fact many nonreligious people get married all the time.


The reason organized religion has brainwashed it’s followers into believing it is something other than what it is, is so they can claim the moral high ground, and religious exemption of the state to interfere.


Since before written language even existed, marriage has been about ownership, property rights, and protection of those rights. Churches/religions can make false claims of ownership of marriage, but with or without the consent of the Church, you need a court to break a marriage, and a divorce is nothing more than a contract renegotiation, between the parties of the original agreement.


So you can indeed get married in a Church, the contract of marriage isn’t valid unless there is an application license/permit issued by the controlling factor, the government, and even after the religious “ceremony”, the contract is not complete until it has been registered with the state.


As long as the contract is mutually acceptable between all adult parties, and each member benefits from the agreement, then the government needs to stay out of the picture. If the individuals want to complicate the issue by allowing their religion of choice to butt in then that is there choice as well, but religion does not own marriage.

Originally Posted by CKW

Mormans at least have a moral code that can keep things structured, beneficial for children and spouses and keep the group family centered.

What about that Pastor Robert Jeffries that was busted having sex with his daughters and young wives? So not all Mormons follow a sacred code. that's BS.

Morality is considered out-dated and restrictive to the secular crowd. A lack of morals leads to self-gratification, selfishness, irresponsiblity and broken families. For the secular crowd it would begin with an orgie and the prospect of a family centered attitude from all the parties is not realistic.,

If Polygamy is taught properly in schools would you have a different view of it?

I'm not sure what your point is here.

the point is the deterioration of values is already happening so why not add Polygamy to the mix?

Originally Posted by CKW

If we are talking about Mormans---maybe. But for the secular crowd we are just encouraging the concept of orgies.

So secular people only take multible wives for orgies?

Yes. Discrimination is a good thing and you practice it everyday. To not be able to discriminate behaviors would be a rather idiotic society--and self-destructive at that.

If you know I discriminate, show me where? BTW, me discriminating on my own terms is much different than having my terms pushed onto other people through government force.

Originally Posted by CKW

Mormans at least have a moral code that can keep things structured, beneficial for children and spouses and keep the group family centered.

Morality is considered out-dated and restrictive to the secular crowd. A lack of morals leads to self-gratification, selfishness, irresponsiblity and broken families. For the secular crowd it would begin with an orgie and the prospect of a family centered attitude from all the parties is not realistic.,



I'm not sure what your point is here.

The governemnt is probbaly the LEAST qualified group of people to police morality. Those lawyers are not the modal citizens I would like my children to learn from. I can supply examples but I dont think we alow that kind of smut on these boards.