Thread: Do you approve sex before marriage?

Originally Posted by Heretic

Women cannot make judgments in life, and therefore are incapable of "consenting" or "choosing" anything. Women never "choose". Only MAN was granted FREE WILL BY GOD. Women were not given this RESPONSIBILITY in life. Women are inherently irresponsible, inherently children, driven by emotion and instinct, farther from GOD than men.

To trust a woman's so-called "judgment", about anything, is similar to a spiritual suicide. Women are closer to children, mentally, intellectually, spiritually, and so, cannot be trusted to JUDGE or CHOOSE or CONSENT to anything in life, certainly not sex.

Look at our ONCE GREAT NATION OF AMERICA. Women, degenerates, and imbeciles were given the "right to vote", and look where we've gone and headed since then........you never, EVER give stupid people and children the "rights" to do anything. They cannot "choose". They are not informed, and never wise. Wisdom is a man's nature, not a woman's, not a child's.

Only man can become RESPONSIBLE to the degree to lead nations. MEN are also closer to GOD. What you call "consent", I call an illusion. You don't understand FREE WILL as GIVEN to mankind by GOD. You don't understand it, because, I guess, you're spiritually corrupt and flee from GOD. What would SINNERS, atheists, zionists, jews, agnostics, secularists, and protestants know about GOD anyway??? Almost nothing.

Lol, you have to be a troll. Nobody can honestly believe this.

Originally Posted by rahl

Lol, you have to be a troll. Nobody can honestly believe this.

You're just angry that Bishadi has been beating you around verbally, and exposing you as a liar. Don't take your rage, anger, hatred, and frustration out on ME!!

Originally Posted by Heretic

No, that's SIN.

But that's not as evil as two homosexuals doing their sinful deeds. You need to understand there are scales for SIN and evil, for men, for us. God sees it absolutely. To approach GOD, to seek Him out and know Him, to FOLLOW HIM, requires absolutely NO SIN at all. Can we do this? We can TRY. But all men SIN in the end, sometimes in ignorance, sometimes knowingly and willingly. The goal is to FIRST recognize your SIN. Sex for pleasure is SIN.

So yes, married heterosexuals who sodomize are SINFUL, and therefore, EVIL. But this is not comparative to, say.....a homosexual.....or child rapist. These latter examples are obviously MORE EVIL. The heterosexual sinners are LESS EVIL. Instead, the Husband should repress his sexuality, and divert his energy to more productive areas of life. He ought to repress his sexual urges and lust, and have sex for procreative purposes with his wife.

If sex for pleasure is a sin, why is it so pleasurable to begin with? Fail god.

Originally Posted by Gwendoline

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You sound like a casualty of GRAND-SCALE bitterness. Live your chaste, platonic life - enjoy it, and then make sure to mind your own business. Other people's sex lives doesn't concern you. And if it does, you clearly have sex on the brain. Think about something else.

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I guarantee that he's jealous of people with sex lives. That's what drove me to think and say the same sort of nonsense when I was Christian.

There are just some personalities for whom a combination of religion and their own thought process becomes a highly toxic mix, Heretic being a case in point.

Originally Posted by Gwendoline

You need to calm down, and you need to grow up.

Your fight is not with me - I am celibate (LOL!!) by the way. The right fella hasn't come along ...

Woah there.

We need to talk

Originally Posted by Durandal

If sex for pleasure is a sin, why is it so pleasurable to begin with? Fail god.

Because a man having sex with a woman, begetting and procreating life, is GOOD and towards GOD.

It is when liberal scum, of whom you associate, CONFUSE this SIMPLE FACT, that all goes to Hell.

How simple is it.....to know what your sexual organs are for, how to use them, and WHY TO USE THEM. But that's the real thing, isn't it? Unguided people, people who are animals, driven by instinct.......don't actually know HOW or WHY to have sex. They know that it feels pleasurable, as all animals do.......but they can't answer the HOW and WHY, the WHY specifically.

WHY have sex? WHY build a family? WHY love and care for your children????????

You don't know. You don't know, because, you don't even know what SIN is!!!!!!!! You actually are confused about which holes to put in which parts. To YOU......a man having butt sex with another man, is, "morally good". This is your MORALITY as a LIBERAL. To you, anything which promotes satanism, sexual perversion, is GOOD. And anything which promotes NORMAL, HETEROSEX, is evil. You try to confuse the obvious. YOU LIBERALS are actually the most "against nature", people, in existence.

You, because you are so politically and radically motivated, want to PERVERT christian morality, and OUR ONCE GREAT NATION, that sex for pleasure is GOOD, and that having sex between two men.......is "NO DIFFERENT" than a man TRULY LOVING ANOTHER, HIS WIFE, and creating an ACTUAL, REAL, TRUE FAMILY OF GOD.

But you sexual deviants, perverts, are all the same, really, in the end. You cannot reproduce, by your own definition and admittance. You are genetically failed.

Here is where the perverts will claim, "BUT MY FRIEND GREG IS A HOMOSEXUAL AND HE HAS CHILD!!!!" THEN HE'S NOT TRULY AND ACTUALLY A HOMOSEXUAL, IS HE??????????????? He's a BISEXUAL. He's confused, or just stupid. He doesn't know either the meaning of words, or what he is "attracted to". Because a HOMOSEXUAL, cannot reproduce, by definition.

A homosexual with a biological child, is, AUTOMATICALLY a hypocrite, a typical liberal, and a LIAR. LIAR. That's the important part. He or she is a LIAR.

Originally Posted by Durandal

Woah there.

We need to talk

Pervert, you're a hypocrite. You're hating on me for defending the CHASTITY of women.......that same CHASTITY that you sexually crave and desire!!!

Originally Posted by Heretic

Because a man having sex with a woman, begetting and procreating life, is GOOD and towards GOD.

It is when liberal scum, of whom you associate, CONFUSE this SIMPLE FACT, that all goes to Hell.

How simple is it.....to know what your sexual organs are for, how to use them, and WHY TO USE THEM. But that's the real thing, isn't it? Unguided people, people who are animals, driven by instinct.......don't actually know HOW or WHY to have sex. They know that it feels pleasurable, as all animals do.......but they can't answer the HOW and WHY, the WHY specifically.

WHY have sex? WHY build a family? WHY love and care for your children????????

You don't know. You don't know, because, you don't even know what SIN is!!!!!!!! You actually are confused about which holes to put in which parts. To YOU......a man having butt sex with another man, is, "morally good". This is your MORALITY as a LIBERAL. To you, anything which promotes satanism, sexual perversion, is GOOD. And anything which promotes NORMAL, HETEROSEX, is evil. You try to confuse the obvious. YOU LIBERALS are actually the most "against nature", people, in existence.

You, because you are so politically and radically motivated, want to PERVERT christian morality, and OUR ONCE GREAT NATION, that sex for pleasure is GOOD, and that having sex between two men.......is "NO DIFFERENT" than a man TRULY LOVING ANOTHER, HIS WIFE, and creating an ACTUAL, REAL, TRUE FAMILY OF GOD.

But you sexual deviants, perverts, are all the same, really, in the end. You cannot reproduce, by your own definition and admittance. You are genetically failed.

Here is where the perverts will claim, "BUT MY FRIEND GREG IS A HOMOSEXUAL AND HE HAS CHILD!!!!" THEN HE'S NOT TRULY AND ACTUALLY A HOMOSEXUAL, IS HE??????????????? He's a BISEXUAL. He's confused, or just stupid. He doesn't know either the meaning of words, or what he is "attracted to". Because a HOMOSEXUAL, cannot reproduce, by definition.

A homosexual with a biological child, is, AUTOMATICALLY a hypocrite, a typical liberal, and a LIAR. LIAR. That's the important part. He or she is a LIAR.

You know, I keep hearing this "once great nation" phrase a lot. What exact time period are you referring to?

During the once great 80s, we had more violent crime per capita than we have today despite also having more televangelism.

During the once great 50s, we had more economic growth but an entire race of people were living as second class citizens.

For most of the 1800s, we had smaller government and a more religious populace but we still had slavery and women couldn't vote.

So, I'm just curious at what point in time America met your "Christian" ideal.

Originally Posted by Heretic

Women cannot make judgments in life, and therefore are incapable of "consenting" or "choosing" anything. Women never "choose". Only MAN was granted FREE WILL BY GOD. Women were not given this RESPONSIBILITY in life. Women are inherently irresponsible, inherently children, driven by emotion and instinct, farther from GOD than men.

To trust a woman's so-called "judgment", about anything, is similar to a spiritual suicide. Women are closer to children, mentally, intellectually, spiritually, and so, cannot be trusted to JUDGE or CHOOSE or CONSENT to anything in life, certainly not sex.

Look at our ONCE GREAT NATION OF AMERICA. Women, degenerates, and imbeciles were given the "right to vote", and look where we've gone and headed since then........you never, EVER give stupid people and children the "rights" to do anything. They cannot "choose". They are not informed, and never wise. Wisdom is a man's nature, not a woman's, not a child's.

Only man can become RESPONSIBLE to the degree to lead nations. MEN are also closer to GOD. What you call "consent", I call an illusion. You don't understand FREE WILL as GIVEN to mankind by GOD. You don't understand it, because, I guess, you're spiritually corrupt and flee from GOD. What would SINNERS, atheists, zionists, jews, agnostics, secularists, and protestants know about GOD anyway??? Almost nothing.

I refer to my previous comment:

Originally Posted by BullsLawDan

Agreed. We've been "Poe's Lawed"

I mean, it was fun for a while dude, but you went full retard too soon. You tipped your hand.

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Originally Posted by Serfin' USA

You know, I keep hearing this "once great nation" phrase a lot. What exact time period are you referring to?

During the once great 80s, we had more violent crime per capita than we have today despite also having more televangelism.

During the once great 50s, we had more economic growth but an entire race of people were living as second class citizens.

For most of the 1800s, we had smaller government and a more religious populace but we still had slavery and women couldn't vote.

So, I'm just curious at what point in time America met your "Christian" ideal.

Ahem, i think you've might just named the various reasons why US was once a great nation, according to Heretic mindset obviously.