Thread: Do you approve sex before marriage?

Originally Posted by Heretic

SINNING is not how I "enjoy" life.

Why not have sex for procreation AND pleasure? It's because you're blind to consequences. You liberals hate the idea of becoming responsible for yourselves, your actions. You hate the idea of marriage and family. Instead, you SINNERS want to steal the love from chaste, virgin girls. You want to rape them with your lies. Believe it or not, this carries a huge SPIRITUAL TOLL. And this toll has been steadily ticking away with each year since this cancer of our society has settled.

But GOD, HAS, BEEN, WATCHING!!!!!!!

I am 60 years old champ, I'm through procreating now and I have absolutly no interest in porking virgins...I prefer a tasty old red haired slut now and again....Sue me.

Originally Posted by Heretic

Who said anything about what "I want"???????

You did.

Originally Posted by Heretic

I'm telling you as IT IS, not how I want it to be.

No you are telling me what you want.

Originally Posted by Heretic

Children are the material possessions, like slaves, of their parents.

Wrong.

Originally Posted by Heretic

If children were not material property, like an iPhone or a wallet, then kidnapping would be impossible.

But kidnapping is wrong because parents have guardianship - not ownership, if their children.

Originally Posted by Heretic

PROVE ME WRONG OR SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I already proved your wrong before. LOL

Originally Posted by Heretic

You're just angry because if I had daughters, that I would PROTECT THEM from liberal slime, scumbags, and liars. You'd fear that a beautiful daughter would be impossible FOR YOU to acquire. And that's because you don't deserve to reproduce with TRUE CHRISTIAN women. You are unwelcome, because you are a typical liberal SINNER.

YAY! Thank God you dont have children. What a miserable life they would lead, and what a nightmare if they were girls. Dont worry, I'll reproduce when I feel like it. For now I'll just stick to having sex.

Originally Posted by Heretic

Yeah, right, whatever you say SCIENTIST.......you're the "expert" here

Yep.

Originally Posted by Heretic

Women never have "full reign" over their bodies.

Yes, they do upon reaching 18.

That is why fathers, you know, TRUE CHRISTIAN MEN, protect the chastity of their daughters from liberal scumbags, liars, rapists, and thieves.[/QUOTE]
Nonsense.

Originally Posted by Heretic

If you eliminate TRUE CHRISTIAN FATHERS from the pictures, then all we are left with are endless liberal sluts, prostitutes, and zionist pimps, selling women and young girls for dollar bills. This is your dream land. This is what YOU WANT MOST OF ALL, SINNER.

Yep. If girls wants to be sluts or prostitutes, then they can go right ahead, I wont stop them.

Originally Posted by Heretic

You're just sad, because your dream land is blocked, by me. I will not allow you to dream this wicked dream of yours, this liberal HELL ON EARTH.

LOL People can already be prositutes and be sluts. My "dream" is a reality. LOL Your kind is near extinction.

Originally Posted by Heretic

You're just angry that some men want to protect their PROPERTY, their daughters, and actually love their daughters.

Daughters aint their property. They can be taken away by the state if they treat them wrongly - like as slaves.

Originally Posted by Heretic

Liberal fathers cannot "love" their daughters, because they don't care about their value as girls and women. A liberal father would let his daughter have sex with animals. How much more irresponsible can you possibly get than that???? A liberal father may even go so far as to promote his young daughter, into becoming a slut as soon as possible. WHOOPS, she had sex at 13. The liberal father doesn't care, why would he?

He'd care. Liberal fathers love their daughters.

Originally Posted by Heretic

To a liberal father, his daughters can only ever be sluts with no pride in themselves, no value or dignity.

That's nonsense.

Originally Posted by Heretic

You mean OWNERSHIP, don't lie to me. I see through your liberal lies. I exist to destroy your religion of liberalism.

Ownership is not guardianship or custody. Educate yourself.

Originally Posted by Heretic

DON'T DENY HIM. YOU KNOW HE EXISTS. You're just angry that your dreams will be shattered, and you can't get whatever you want in life, as if you are a spoiled young brat, a child and boy. That's what your liberal ideology is all about. You want SIN SIN SIN.

LOL God is a joke mate. Luckily, people are slowly moving away from him. Soon enough, no one will care about God as a concept of significant importance.

Originally Posted by Heretic

WRONG

How so?

Originally Posted by Heretic

See how quickly you liberals contradict yourselves and make exceptions????????

I should plaster your lies all over the internet, copy and paste your lies wherever I go
Where was the contradiction?

Originally Posted by Heretic

If mother's OWN their children, as you just ADMITTED THAT THEY DO, then what makes you think women are not the property of men, who in turn, own them????

Men do not own women. Women only own children in their womb - ie a fetus.

Originally Posted by Heretic

You're going to wake up to a new vision tomorrow morning, I'll guarantee you that much

What do you mean?

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

So what?

So marriage is the bedrock of entire societies and civilization.

If you destroy marriage in a society, then you have successfully undone its entire past, present, and future.

This is what Zio-liberalism has done to the United States. And these foreign agents must pay a spiritual price, for going against GOD.

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

Indeed, so I dont know why humans bother.

Maybe someday you'll grow up and see why marriage is important and absolutely valuable to all life

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

So what?

So the future depends on it

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

I have morals. I think marriage is pointless.

You don't have morals. You're a liberal.

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

Sex is fun, that much is true.

There is no such thing as pleasure without pain.

Your pleasure comes from another organism's pain.

Your rape of women, your using them, comes at their suffering. Do you think prostitutes are proud of themselves, or have "chosen" their line of work? What kind of young girl, your daughter maybe, would CHOOSE to become a prostitute, a whore, as a grown woman? In which society on Earth, is it glorified to become a sex worker, except in the United States of America?

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

Well, if you are of sound mind, yes you are.

Then prove what is "sound mind"

Originally Posted by Heretic

NOOOOOOOOOOO, the first is your liberal ideology blinding you.

Have you ever had sex?

Originally Posted by Heretic

Liberalism promotes SIN, sex for pleasure, because without this, liberalism would be exposed for the Satanic lie that it is......it is sexual perversion and nothing more, a MENTAL ILLNESS rampant in our ONCE GREAT NATION.

Not at all. What you describe as "SIN" is freedom, and moral freedom at that.

Originally Posted by Heretic

Many "Christians" are not really Christians. By definition, TRUE CHRISTIANS are those who have the spiritual capacity to engage monogamous behavior, and form lifelong attachments and commitments. This is a spiritual quality. But more is needed, obviously. Not only must one be SPIRITUALLY STRONG, to follow Christ, but you must also WALK IN HIS PATH and LISTEN FOR THE WORD OF GOD.

Most Christians disagree with you.

Originally Posted by Heretic

You have no idea what this cancer of SIN in our ONCE GREAT SOCIETY is going to do in a "few generations".

LOL Yeah I do - make everyone more happy and free.

Originally Posted by Heretic

Cancer spread quickly, you Liberal, heed my words and warnings

Sorry, aint going to happen.

Originally Posted by Heretic

Your "freedom" is your slavery, you are bound by SIN and nothing more

And I enjoy it that way, since it is perfectly moral to live by the slavery of my personal interests where I respect the interests of others.

Originally Posted by Heretic

You know nothing of true FREEDOM, granted by the GRACE OF GOD

Yes I do. 'Freedom' granted by God is a joke. Truthful and objective moral freedom rejects half of his teachings.

Originally Posted by Heretic

You're already there, or close enough

No, I am there - most people are. Notice how everyone is really happy about it?

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

You are saiyng no man changes his mind?

I'm saying young liberal men, like you, lie to young girls, steal their virginity (rape) with those lies, and then later dump them on the street as sluts

This is the plight of our society today. Liberals are preying on the VALUE of young girls and women, and consuming spirituality without retribution

God will come and rectify this SIN, as He has throughout all of history, and has been written in the HOLY BIBLE

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

Yes but some change their mind.

For you, "changing their mind" is no different than a lie

If you deflower a virgin, then you own her forever. You have stolen (raped) her essence in life. This is how women are valuable. Young girls, sluts, give this away freely, when it's actually their most valuable commodity and POSSESSION in life. Nobody really respects sluts, secretly. Everybody judges them harshly, except maybe CHRIST. Christ was the defender of the weakest, including sluts and whores and prostitutes. He was the only man in history who ever TRULY cared for the abused.

You're a liberal, you wouldn't know anything about it. You're a consumer, taker, and have not yet paid for what you've taken. There is a SPIRITUAL TOLL to all things.

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

Well, yes. If men and woman want to have sex, they should go right ahead.

And you will recommend abortions when the EFFECT of sin is realized

First you recommend rape, LIE to a young girl, steal her virginity........then to add to SIN, you recommend a SECOND SIN, and this is murder of an unborn child

Liberals SIN twice

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

When it comes to children, I think they should provide for and care for them.

You're a hypocrite.

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

But sex does entail a fair bit of love.

You mean lies?

What do YOU know about "love"? You don't even know the meaning of the word.

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

Not at all. If a young girl wants to have consensual fun, she has every right - same as a guy.

There is no such thing as a "right" to "fun" or SIN........................... ......

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

Sin isnt a problem. There is no real problem with sex, let alone sex outside marriage.

You must be completely out of touch from reality?

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

The comodification of sex I think is a problem,

THEN YOU'RE A HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

but that's not what we are discussing here. The solution to all problems is the increase of general knowledge.


Sure, but generally, sex has no seriously negative consequences.

LOOOOOOOOL

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

Not really.


Virginity isn't that important mate. Trust me, if she doesn't have sex in a few months, she'll be more desperate than before she had sex for the first time.

Correct yourself...........virginity isn't important to who?????

Virginity is not important to LIBERAL young men or LIBERAL fathers, who secretly hate women, disrespect women, and USE women for sexual gratification, which is actually a sexual perversion, instead of having sex for procreative reasons

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

Not at all. If she had a good time, she should feel happy.

Does "feeling happy" include raising the child or aborting/murdering it?????

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

LOL Ok.


I doubt there is a God.

You're wrong as usual

Here's what I think, may be slightly off topic, but:

A relationship without sex is just a friend
Sex without friendship is just a fun night or two

You need both to really have a romantic relationship.
Although who am I to define everyone's relationships? haha it's just my personal opinion.

Originally Posted by Heretic

So marriage is the bedrock of entire societies and civilization.

Well, no.

Originally Posted by Heretic

If you destroy marriage in a society, then you have successfully undone its entire past, present, and future.

Nonsense.

Originally Posted by Heretic

This is what Zio-liberalism has done to the United States. And these foreign agents must pay a spiritual price, for going against GOD.

LOL Thanks for the laugh mate.

Originally Posted by Heretic

Maybe someday you'll grow up and see why marriage is important and absolutely valuable to all life

Are you married?

Originally Posted by Heretic

So the future depends on it

How so?

Originally Posted by Heretic

You don't have morals. You're a liberal.

I do have morals and am not a liberal. However, liberals do have morals.

Originally Posted by Heretic

There is no such thing as pleasure without pain.

Yes, there is.

Originally Posted by Heretic

Your pleasure comes from another organism's pain.

LOL I can assure you all the women I have (*)(*)(*)(*)ed enjoyed it.

Originally Posted by Heretic

Your rape of women,

LOL They all consented.

Originally Posted by Heretic

your using them, comes at their suffering.

Not at all.

Originally Posted by Heretic

Do you think prostitutes are proud of themselves, or have "chosen" their line of work?

Many, yes.

Originally Posted by Heretic

What kind of young girl, your daughter maybe, would CHOOSE to become a prostitute, a whore, as a grown woman?

A woman who wants to be a prostitute, a whore, as a grown woman.

Originally Posted by Heretic

In which society on Earth, is it glorified to become a sex worker, except in the United States of America?

Most Western societies glorify sex.

Originally Posted by Heretic

Then prove what is "sound mind"

When someone is not handicapped by a mental disorder or illness.

from the poll I would say most repubs and dems support sex before marriage... I kinda figured more republicans would be pushing for the marry for sex route

course even they know Abstinence is not realistic for most people - at least not if they have a choice in the mater


.

Ya know what's weird....all the countries that are more open about sex and less religious than the USA have a lower percentage of people with STDs and a lower teen pregnancy rate. Huh? Life is funny that way, isn't it?

Originally Posted by Heretic

I'm saying young liberal men, like you, lie to young girls, steal their virginity (rape) with those lies, and then later dump them on the street as sluts

Having consensual sex with a virgin is not rape. Its just really fun.

Originally Posted by Heretic

This is the plight of our society today. Liberals are preying on the VALUE of young girls and women, and consuming spirituality without retribution

God will come and rectify this SIN, as He has throughout all of history, and has been written in the HOLY BIBLE

LOL Well I'll keep having sex until he arrives. hahaha

Originally Posted by Heretic

For you, "changing their mind" is no different than a lie

If you deflower a virgin, then you own her forever. You have stolen (raped) her essence in life. This is how women are valuable. Young girls, sluts, give this away freely, when it's actually their most valuable commodity and POSSESSION in life. Nobody really respects sluts, secretly. Everybody judges them harshly, except maybe CHRIST. Christ was the defender of the weakest, including sluts and whores and prostitutes. He was the only man in history who ever TRULY cared for the abused.

Total nonsense.

Originally Posted by Heretic

You're a liberal, you wouldn't know anything about it. You're a consumer, taker, and have not yet paid for what you've taken. There is a SPIRITUAL TOLL to all things.

Again, nonsense.

Originally Posted by Heretic

And you will recommend abortions when the EFFECT of sin is realized

If a woman wants an abortion, hell yeah she can have one.

Originally Posted by Heretic

First you recommend rape, LIE to a young girl, steal her virginity........then to add to SIN, you recommend a SECOND SIN, and this is murder of an unborn child

If that's how you describe it, yes I definitely say that is permissible and yes I recommend people have sex where they feel they want to with other consenting adults.

Originally Posted by Heretic

You're a hypocrite.

How's that?

Originally Posted by Heretic

You mean lies?
What do YOU know about "love"? You don't even know the meaning of the word.

Have you ever had sex? Seriously? Are you a virgin?

Originally Posted by Heretic

There is no such thing as a "right" to "fun" or SIN........................... ......

Yes, there is. Its called freedom.

Originally Posted by Heretic

You must be completely out of touch from reality?

What reality is that?

Originally Posted by Heretic

THEN YOU'RE A HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How so?

Originally Posted by Heretic

LOOOOOOOOL Correct yourself...........virginity isn't important to who?????

To logically thinking people.

Originally Posted by Heretic

Virginity is not important to LIBERAL young men or LIBERAL fathers, who secretly hate women, disrespect women, and USE women for sexual gratification, which is actually a sexual perversion, instead of having sex for procreative reasons

Most girls and guys dont much like their virginity, hence they lose it, usually in their teens.

Originally Posted by Heretic

Does "feeling happy" include raising the child or aborting/murdering it?????

Yes, a mother can abort/murder her fetus if she so chooses.

Originally Posted by Heretic

You're wrong as usual

How so?