Thread: Which is more important to you:

Originally Posted by Iolo

I take your point, but your attitudes are based on contemporary American prosperity. If I were starving I'd prefer the government to intervene in my personal life and feed me. If there is no rain, rugged individual leads to cannibalism, I suppose. I'm against it.

I can agree with that, but I would not describe that as economic liberty.

For example, in both Afghanistan and Iraq, civil liberties are considerably more limited, but then again, the governments are aimed at socializing certain things to help raise the standard of living gradually.

So, before receiving more advanced civil liberties common in the West, it is true that a country must prosper first.

I wouldn't describe prosperity itself as economic liberty, although it can be part of it. Economic liberty, IMHO, refers more specifically to the freedom to run a business without much restriction balanced by the rights of labor and consumers.

Originally Posted by ryanm34

There is one on trial at the staff entrance where they can opt to have it or not, it is not expected that it will be rolled out across the airport.

My mistake then. There was also this room that you had to enter after getting your bags. I don't know if it had a scanner or not, but it seemed like it did.

Either way, Dublin's airport seemed to focus more on the whole "questions" aspect. I had to wait in line to talk to some official who then asked me where I would be going and who I was coming to see. It reminded me of the TSA here.

Originally Posted by Iolo

I take your point, but your attitudes are based on contemporary American prosperity. If I were starving I'd prefer the government to intervene in my personal life and feed me. If there is no rain, rugged individual leads to cannibalism, I suppose. I'm against it.

If you were starving, it's likely that the government was already interfering by preventing the market from getting food to you. In some cases that may be due to regulations and bureaucracy, and, in other cases, entrenched corruption.

Originally Posted by BleedingHeadKen

If you were starving, it's likely that the government was already interfering by preventing the market from getting food to you. In some cases that may be due to regulations and bureaucracy, and, in other cases, entrenched corruption.

I don't think that could be said as much for the poorest nations of the planet. There's not much of a government to speak of in Somalia or Ethiopia, for example.

Originally Posted by BleedingHeadKen

If you were starving, it's likely that the government was already interfering by preventing the market from getting food to you. In some cases that may be due to regulations and bureaucracy, and, in other cases, entrenched corruption.

Look at North Africa. Governemnts don't control climate.

Originally Posted by Serfin' USA

My mistake then. There was also this room that you had to enter after getting your bags. I don't know if it had a scanner or not, but it seemed like it did.

Either way, Dublin's airport seemed to focus more on the whole "questions" aspect. I had to wait in line to talk to some official who then asked me where I would be going and who I was coming to see. It reminded me of the TSA here.

Sounds like customs and immigration, and that is their job to find out who is coming and if their business matches their visa. A citizen or someone from the UK is in a separate line.

Originally Posted by ryanm34

Sounds like customs and immigration, and that is their job to find out who is coming and if their business matches their visa. A citizen or someone from the UK is in a separate line.

Yeah, the EU line was considerably longer than the non-EU one, although the EU line seemed to move faster.

Originally Posted by CoolWalker

As money buys everything, economic freedom would top the list. Then at least you could buy other freedoms if need be.

or those with more money could buy your civil freedoms, I say both


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Originally Posted by Serfin' USA

Despite all the noise made about our airports, I've been to airports in other countries where the policies aren't any different. In the UK, they have body scanners, where they can see through your clothing. You're effectively strip searched. In Canada, their equivalent of the TSA isn't that different. In Ireland, they use the scanners just like the U.K.

So honestly, I don't see a whole lot of difference between having your nuts grabbed and having your nuts visible to whoever is running the machine. By the way, I've never had a patdown at an airport.

You can usually avoid having one done by:

1) walking through the metal detector without arguing

2) not acting strangely in general

What you are in fact saying is that the US is the only country where perverts have the opportunity to act within the law. And that really says it all.

Originally Posted by signcutter

I am not happy unless I get my nuts grabbed at the airport... whats everybody complaining about?

P.S I highly reccomend wearing a turban , mirrored sunglasses, a tight fitting pink T shirt, really baggy cargo shorts and cowboy boots to the airport (doesnt hurt to goose step everywhere either)

LOL
Why is humour so lacking in the US?