Thread: Why vote at all anymore?

Originally Posted by Phoebe Bump

I ask myself that question every 4 years or so. There really is no sense in voting, but I do it anyway just to cancel out a Republican vote.

But do you really think that's what your vote is doing?

So many people are comfortable thinking their vote counts, when we've seen already in Bush2 and recent campaigns that voter fraud is a mainstay in America that will only get worse.

Originally Posted by 4Horsemen

But do you really think that's what your vote is doing?

So many people are comfortable thinking their vote counts, when we've seen already in Bush2 and recent campaigns that voter fraud is a mainstay in America that will only get worse.

I would like to see both electric and manual tallies, and they should match 100%

ever sense Kerry got negative votes and we saw how easy it was to hack these voting machines, I think a system that tallies by hand and electronic is the only sure way to eliminate fraud

Originally Posted by 4Horsemen

as an example, have you seen any change since you've been alive? I haven't. yet we still vote.

Yes - the US has gone from being a hopeful democracy to being a nasty, spiteful plutocracy, where the mugs vote to be worse off as long as others are even worse off. It is because the mugs vote as their masters tell 'em and the relatively sensible don't bother.

Giving up is never the answer...for winners!

Oh I know that voting doesn't mean dick. They let us vote every four years so we can tell ourselves that we have "liberties". Even then, our votes get filtered by the electoral college. And if you live in a big state, you're vote for Senator counts about 1/10,000 of a vote in So. Carolina (for example) if, as you say, it gets counted at all. Still, if there's a Republican vote loose in my state that might see the light of day, I want to make sure I've cancelled it out.

There are ATMs all over the place. Turn off the money for a day and make them voting booths. The tech exists and chances are that they are closer than the place you have to go to vote.

Even though I live in Mexico and voting has been a hassle I still vote. For me, it's a repsonsibility. I'm not so responsible I vote more than once or plan on voting after I'm dead, though. That would be liberals. So, I'll vote again this year. I see it less as Republican and Democrat than I do capitalist and socialist.

Originally Posted by Phoebe Bump

Oh I know that voting doesn't mean dick. They let us vote every four years so we can tell ourselves that we have "liberties". Even then, our votes get filtered by the electoral college. And if you live in a big state, you're vote for Senator counts about 1/10,000 of a vote in So. Carolina (for example) if, as you say, it gets counted at all. .

This is how I feel.

Originally Posted by 4Horsemen

as an example, have you seen any change since you've been alive? I haven't. yet we still vote.

I agree with this horsemen...haven't seen any changes....

Yes, your vote does not count so please do me a favor and don't vote anymore. (Bwahahaha! The more people I can convince the more powerful I will become!)