Thread: Views on People on Social welfare, SSI, SSD, Food Stamps, Medicare, Medicaid.

Originally Posted by Durandal

I feel that public welfare is all too often an enabler for people to get away from working for a living. I even have family who, in my opinion, are abusing the system, even though they follow the system's rules and are at least for the most part honest in collecting money. These family members are nevertheless collecting money when they could actually be working, and they haven't been making an effort to find work for whatever reasons, one of which is of course the fact that they have all that "free" money available.

I don't see how even a majority of those on welfare genuinely need it. I feel that most are probably purposely abusing it.

First let me address your comment on those who purposely abuse the system. People who purposely abuse the system need their heads checked! Because if living a life of poverty, never being able to travel the World and have nice things sounds good... than that person is insane!!! Yes, I know they are out there, but wanting to be on welfare rather than working is just sick.

Do me a favor, be wary of judging family that are on welfare. Unless you have their illness, you can never really place yourself in their shoes. My family for years unfairly and wrongly judged me. I bet even today there are some in my family who still have no clue as to how bad my illness is. I use to look down on people on welfare... until I became sick and walked a mile in their shoes. Some illnesses are invisible, like my illness, CFS. Sometimes the cover does not represent the book very well. Just saying. You could be right about your family members for all I know though.

Originally Posted by Durandal

Why can't you be gainfully employed? Nowadays, if you can sit at a computer and use your noggin, you can work somehow.

My own work is at home, contract-based and purely on the computer + email. I also make better money being a lazy arse than I ever did busting my balls in the blue collar world.

Wow, like I never been asked that before. So the assumption is that because today I can debate on this forum and seem well, that every day is like this? The assumption is that anyone can get a job on the internet and that there is an abundance of net based jobs out there for which I am qualified for. What have you been smoking? Because I want to avoid it! I have tried to get a job on the net. Know what I find? I am not going to tell you... go look for yourself. Just FYI, use a bogus spam email addy when looking.

You are full on assumptions and light on facts.

Originally Posted by Dan40

You CLAIM to be "dumping" Medicare and you also state in another post that you are on SSD. You cannot dump Medicare if you qualified for it through employment, nor can you dump it on SSD without other coverage. And then you have to be under 65 years of age. And there IS no other coverage to be had for $100 dollars per month for Medicare Part B plus $0.00 per forever for Medicare Part A.

My opinion is that there is NO truth in your posts.

Your mind sounds made up so I will not reply.

Originally Posted by robini123

Hm, I will have to look into that. Thanks for the info.

You'll find actual information in the real world, not in your dark basement of fantasies.

Originally Posted by Dan40

You'll find actual information in the real world, not in your dark basement of fantasies.

I found the info at the Social Security Office in Boise Idaho where I was given a form to dump my medicare. Now I have not read the form as of yet because until this month I have not been ready to dump my medicare. Perhaps I will only be allowed to dump part B and not A as was said on this thread, I will find out soon enough. So who should I believe? An anonymous person on the internet, or the SSA employee who I sat in front of and gave me the info?

Your unjustified attack has earned you a coveted place on my ignore list. Welcome!

P.S. aren't all you haters out there happy I am trying to give up my Medicare so you no longer have to pay my medical? No? I guess you just want to hang onto the delusion that us people on social welfare are a bunch of freeloaders!

Originally Posted by robini123

I found the info at the Social Security Office in Boise Idaho where I was given a form to dump my medicare. Now I have not read the form as of yet because until this month I have not been ready to dump my medicare. Perhaps I will only be allowed to dump part B and not A as was said on this thread, I will find out soon enough. So who should I believe? An anonymous person on the internet, or the SSA employee who I sat in front of and gave me the info?

Your unjustified attack has earned you a coveted place on my ignore list. Welcome!

P.S. aren't all you haters out there happy I am trying to give up my Medicare so you no longer have to pay my medical?

2 problems, Part A is no charge so why would you wish to dump it? And 2 if you are on welfare then we taxpayers ARE paying your Part B monthly premium, deductible, and co-pays, PLUS the amount Medicare pays the providers, so again WHY would you make a silly claim that you intend to dump it?

I expect that from time to time people will lie to me and others. I'd prefer they do it well so as to not insult my intelligence.

And thank you for the IGNORE list favor. I will soon return same.

"Everyone on Public Welfare are slackers and need to get a job"
Well that's pretty ridiculous wording, and for that reason, I voted other. I am personally opposed to each and everyone of the programs mentioned in the poll question. But I can be opposed to them without denigrating the individuals who reieve them. Therefore I can (and do) despise Medicare and SSI, but I do not feel that every recipient is a "slacker" or that they neccesarily need to "get a job".