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View Poll Results: Was the War in Iraq part of the war on terrorism?
Yes, it has reduced the risk of terrorism 77 32.91%
No, it has actually created a new source for terrorism in the world 157 67.09%
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As Senax said earlier this thread is treading on dangerous ground. Get back on topic, "Is [the] Iraq war [a] part of [the] War on Terrorism?", or this thread will be locked.

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President Bush is CONSTANTLY talking about the war on terror and the war in Iraq as the same thing. He then is saying that if you disagree with the war in Iraq, then you must conversely be soft on terrorism or are appeasing terrorists, etc. The question is that if the former Iraqi regime had no known links to international terrorist acts, how can the war in Iraq be part of the war on terrorism.
Let's recap the history... He not only continued to shoot at our planes, he continued to defy the UN Resolutions, thumbing his nose at the world. After signing onto the Resolutions to save his ass, he reneged on everything he promised to do.

... So yes, it is definitely part of the War On Terrorism. And the world is better off , and safer, without Saddam Hussein in power. Even most of the nations they weren't involved in Iraq have admitted to that fact.
Many Americans continue to say Saddam did not comply with U.N. resolutions, but it appears from recent reports that he did comply, years ago (no weapons).

No, I don’t believe the United States, or the world are better off with Saddam in prison. Maybe the Iraqi people are.
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Many Americans continue to say Saddam did not comply with U.N. resolutions, but it appears from recent reports that he did comply, years ago (no weapons).
Even the U.N. was against him because they required their presence at the destruction of the weapons, as he claimed he did, in order to verify. The inspectors were shut out by Saddam for purposes of verification and were ushered out by Iraq in the days before the invasion. They never got to verify his claim, and he never allowed them. Their destruction is still not verifiable. They're not there, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. He could have smuggled them out, or buried them somewhere in the desert. We may never know.
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No, I don’t believe the United States, or the world are better off with Saddam in prison. Maybe the Iraqi people are.
Well I do. I'd much rather shoot first and ask questions later than to have another atrocity enacted on U.S. soil. Remember, after 9/11 there was a lot of pressure to prevent another attack. It was time for us to be proactive instead of reactive.
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You are a smart guy, but you must remember that the inspectors left because we were going to attack and therefore inspections were moot. And speaking of inspectors, they were given access even to Saddam’s Palaces, which you’ll recall was a significant problem with previous inspections.

Colin Powell said we knew where the weapons were before our invasion. If that was the case, we should have sent the inspectors to those sites and waited for the results before attacking. If weapons had been found it would have been much easier to build an actual coalition.

I do agree that all parts of the U.N. resolutions were not followed, but all evidence points to the fact that the most important parts, the removal of weapons of mass destruction were carried out. Recent reports say that the weapons have probably been gone for several years.

I’m surprised you said shoot first and ask questions later. I’ll bet your pizza delivery guy is nervous on late night deliveries (my poor attempt at humor). It’s as though we felt we had to attack someone, anyone.

Now much does it bother you that our military is stretched to the breaking point in the wrong country when there are larger, more credible threats in several other areas?
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but you must remember that the inspectors left because we were going to attack
Saddam kicked them out.
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and therefore inspections were moot. And speaking of inspectors, they were given access even to Saddam’s Palaces, which you’ll recall was a significant problem with previous inspections.
They were not allowed free reign of where they wanted to search. They were required to disclose where they intended to inspect, no surprise inspections. We have transcripts of radio transmissions where they warned the commander of impending inspections minutes before the UN guys got to a location to check.
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Colin Powell said we knew where the weapons were before our invasion. If that was the case, we should have sent the inspectors to those sites and waited for the results before attacking.
Saddam didn't allow that.
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If weapons had been found it would have been much easier to build an actual coalition.
If weapons would have been found, we wouldn't have had to go to war at all.
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I do agree that all parts of the U.N. resolutions were not followed, but all evidence points to the fact that the most important parts, the removal of weapons of mass destruction were carried out. Recent reports say that the weapons have probably been gone for several years.
Check the Duelfer report that just came out last week. It shows Saddam's intent to decieve and keep his weapons programs alive so he could reconstitute them ASAP.
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I’m surprised you said shoot first and ask questions later. I’ll bet your pizza delivery guy is nervous on late night deliveries (my poor attempt at humor). It’s as though we felt we had to attack someone, anyone.

Now much does it bother you that our military is stretched to the breaking point in the wrong country when there are larger, more credible threats in several other areas?
You're buying into the liberal media. We have the strongest military in the world. It's not even close to the breaking point. Next, you'll be echoing Kerry and saying Bush has a secret plan for a draft.
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President Bush is CONSTANTLY talking about the war on terror and the war in Iraq as the same thing. He then is saying that if you disagree with the war in Iraq, then you must conversely be soft on terrorism or are appeasing terrorists, etc. The question is that if the former Iraqi regime had no known links to international terrorist acts, how can the war in Iraq be p art of the war on terrorism.
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ARE YOU FROM THE SAME COUNTRY I AM? DO YOU HAVE ANY INTELLIGENCE OR KNOWLEDGE AS TO WHERE OSAMA BIN LADEN IS? IF SO PLEASE NOTIFY ALLOF US! THE WAR ON TERRORISM BEGAN IN IRAQ BECAUSE IT BEGAN IN THE MIDDLE EAST. PERSONAL QUESTION...DID YOU EVER PLAY RISK? IF YOU DID... AN THERE WAS SOMEONE HIDING IN THE BIG MIDEAST WHERE WOULD YOU BE BEST TO ATTACK? THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT SADDAM HUSSEIN...IT'S ABOUT GETTING OSAMA, CORNERING HIM AND MAKING HIM PAY FOR WHAT HE'S DONE. LOOK AND THINK MORE BEFORE YOU SPEAK !!! BUSH HAS A PLAN CONTRARY TO WHAT DEMS ARE PORTRAYING - WHY NOT JUST SUPPORT OUR TROOPS IN THE MEANTIME?!!!!!!

GOD BLESSS YOU AND AMERICA AND OUR TROOPS AND OUR PRESIDENT OF THE U.S. MR. GEORGE W. BUSH.
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