That was brilliant, nawbut. By the way, nawbut, I've become an isolationist, which is why I've suddenly changed my mind about the Middle East.

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It has. When was our last world war?

The smaller wars of today are still with non-democracies...not between democracies.

Please post your evidence that we are deliberately attacking civilians.

I agree. We are making wonderful progress.

If spreading democracy and freedom = "Illuminati-wannabes", I can accept that label.

According to every political test I have taken since I joined this site, I am defined as a moderate. Be afraid, heh heh.

Pretty much, yeah,. But that doesnt mean all those skirmishs are NOT associated with terror in some way.

We havnt overthrown the Palestinian government, inspite of the fact that they used to be actual terrorists. If we are using the war on terror as a justification to remove governments we dont like...why havnt we removed them?

Saddam has supported terrorists in the past...that is undisputed fact.

No, we removed one potential front.

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The War in Iraq made life on American soil more rather than less dangerous. Therefore it was not justified.

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But the brilliance was Yeats', not mine.

And I cannot agree with an isolationist stance; the modern world is constructed such that we must engage with it fully, (particularly as we are the single global superpower).

The question is in the manner of our engagement; as a unilateral bully-boy, kicking-asses (selectively) of the non-compliant? Or...something else entirely...

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We're talking about ideology here, not actions. Rationalizations to be exact. I've heard it from you and other neocon sympathizers on this site that we are justified in anything done to Palestinian people because as democracies they have shown their will. This is a point you make again and again. Am I supposed to believe this is not a call for action or a seed for something bigger? It seems to be a replacement for the democracy ending war rationalization.

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Pretty much.

The 9/11 commission, in language clear as day, said there was no substantive link between Iraq and terror. We, however, taught them how to fly.

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Translation: "No Sadistic-Savior. I do not have any evidence that we are deliberately attacking civilians".

Why does the fact that they are democracies mean that they cant be held responsible for their actions? That logic makes no sense.

War wont end until everyone is a democracy. That seems obvious to me.

The fact that virtually NO wars occur between democracies should be ample evidence that the theory works.

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But already you open the door for war with other democracies over uncoordinated policies by mentioning the idea of holding civilians accountable for country actions. What do you mean by this if not asking for war between democracies over issues.

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Good to hear from someone from that period, political alligences aside though; would you agree that the legitimacy of the war in Iraq is equal to that of the Vietnam War?

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Ok. could someone please set the record straight for me. I could have sworn that Israeli forces found documents proving that Saddam supported terrorism. I thought it was like ten thousand dollars to any family of a suicide bomber. I could have also sworn the article I read said he later raised it to twenty-five thousand dollars. Now, it is possible that I might have missed some update proving these documents false, but I'm sure I would have heard about it by now beings how they've been talking about this since before the Iraq War. Is this true or not?