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View Poll Results: Was the War in Iraq part of the war on terrorism?
Yes, it has reduced the risk of terrorism 77 32.91%
No, it has actually created a new source for terrorism in the world 157 67.09%
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Old 09-02-2006, 08:20 AM
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Default iraq war, send bush to it

I dispise the man for getting us into this, and making more enemies for us. Everyone should find burton ridgeway on the net. he has great idea, and should be president, but is not serious.
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Old 09-12-2006, 05:59 PM
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Iraq is now full of foreign terrrists who came in from Afghanistan, Iran, and other neighboring countries by the busload. Yes, you could argue that it was because of the presence of Western military forces there, but getting to the cause (even if you disagree with it) won't solve the problem.

Iraq is presently struggling to emerge a middle eastern democracy. It is also struggling with outside forces using terrrist attacks against Iraqi citizens. The terrrists have stopped attacking coalition forces, and turned on the Iraqi's which shows just how desperate the terrrists are. They will stop at nothing to prevent freedom in the middle east.

Whether or not you feel the war in Iraq is justified, it is now an integral part of the war on terrr.

We've been hearing how desperate the terrorists are since the beginning. Isn't that getting a little old and tired? The more successful the terrorists are the more desperate they become. I don't get it.

Foreign terrorists are killing Iraqis. But far more Iraqis are killed by other Iragis. And at this point, Shiite militias are killing more Iraqis than anyone else.
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Old 09-12-2006, 07:27 PM
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Default you bet it is

what else would it be. saddam was the worst lind of terrorist
part of 9-11 NO
part of the war on terror you can bet your ass it is
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wow thats the most votes I've seen for a poll here in PF. Hmm.. sorta accurate too, it tracks current sentiments in the USA of 2/3 polled thinking Bush's invasion of Iraq was a bad idea.



oh heheh my only comment in this whole thread was from 2004 consisting of only 3 words. Sometimes it's better to just let reality speak for itself.
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There's no doubt that there are terrorist in Iraq. I also believe that Saddam has actively supported terrorists attacks on the US and its allies. However, I don't thing that terrorism is the main reason for the War on Iraq. In my opinion, OIL is the main reason why Bush wanted to make war on Iraq.
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Old 02-28-2007, 06:30 AM
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But already you open the door for war with other democracies over uncoordinated policies by mentioning the idea of holding civilians accountable for country actions.
That door is already open. What exactly has changed?

The reason democracies dont attack each other is because democratic governments tend to be more rational. Not because there is any "rule" or "law" against them attacking one another.

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What do you mean by this if not asking for war between democracies over issues.
I mean that when the People are held responsible for their actions (or by proxy via their elected representatives), they are far less likely to engage in aggressive wars or terrorism. I thought that was obvious.

You can already see signs of that with Iran now, and they are not even a true democracy. The historical evidence supports my conclusion.

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would you agree that the legitimacy of the war in Iraq is equal to that of the Vietnam War?
As much or more. Because the with vietnam it was an oligarchy. A dictatorship is more volitile and therefore more of a threat.

The spread of communism at that time was arguably worse only because it was backed by another superpower. We are now the only remaining superpower.

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iraq war, send bush to it. I dispise the man for getting us into this
Bush could not have done it without people like me. You should despise us more.

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They were already our enemies. Sept 11 predated the war.
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President Bush is CONSTANTLY talking about the war on terror and the war in Iraq as the same thing. He then is saying that if you disagree with the war in Iraq, then you must conversely be soft on terrorism or are appeasing terrorists, etc. The question is that if the former Iraqi regime had no known links to international terrorist acts, how can the war in Iraq be part of the war on terrorism.
Please work on your pronunciation: It's "war on turrism.” Think of tourist then put a “izm” on the back. Thar u go… How can the wurld respect us if'n we don't use good pronunciation.
you know sir, if you were to bring such a ditrate up in a bar or public situation, I would have no problem in kicking your ass right then and there.

So why don't you try that next time you are seeking an ass kicking.
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Default A rhetorical question?

I thought this poll question was a rhetorical question at first.

I don't think there is any doubt whatsoever the war in Iraq has increased terrorism. Not only in Iraq but in other places in the world. The war in Iraq was a knee-jerk reaction to 9/11 and an opportunity to get oil and other contracts for America. If Saddam had WMDs why didn't he use them when the war began?

That Bin Laden is at large is no accident either. This situation suits Bush no end because creating a hegemonic social, cultural and political landscape allows him to diminish your civil rights, keep people un-neccesarily scared and continue his imperialistic policies.

His policy for dealing with terrorism is flawed anyway. His foreign policies in Israel etc is doing more than Al Quaida could possibly do in terms of breeding more terrorists.

He is a dangerous simpleton.
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I think that we should begin to bring the troops home, and that goes for troops located all over the world, let's bring em' home! We can aid the Iraqi government financially, but it is up to them to protect what they have, it is not up to us.

1. Bring them home, the LIBERTARIAN party has a gradual exit strategy listed on their site.

2. Reduce military to protect the US, and to make sure new immigrants aren't terrorists.

3. This will save billions, and a system of non-intervention and free trade will kill off the "socialist" nations of the world. There are ways to deal with Iran/NK
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Old 04-11-2007, 02:09 PM
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Fighting radicals in the Middle East makes us and will continue to make us safer here at home. Period. We are fighting them and, in fact, some radicals are caught up in figthing eachother and the normal people of Iraq.

This war had to do with getting rid of a brutal tyrant who didn't deserve to be the leader of a country and to ensure our security. The violence in Iraq now is due to our enemies in countries throughout the Middle East, not the US.
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