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View Poll Results: Was the War in Iraq part of the war on terrorism?
Yes, it has reduced the risk of terrorism 75 32.75%
No, it has actually created a new source for terrorism in the world 154 67.25%
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watch the whole video, listen to colmes.
I've watched the whole video many times. Colmes is just obfuscating the point. The weapons were found. They were the ones we were looking for because Saddam was not supposed to have ANY WMD'S!

Now go back and watch the second link. Look at the victims of the WMD's, the Kurdish men women and children maimed and killed by them. Then tell me Saddam didn't have WMD's.
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do you need me to validate your belief? those werent the wmd we went for. i didnt say saddam never ever had wmds.
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do you know what the above statement means? there is no "mostly unique;" thats like saying "sometimes always," its an oxymoron - its either one or the other.
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do you need me to validate your belief? those werent the wmd we went for. i didnt say saddam never ever had wmds.
Well which WMD's did we go in for? Why wouldn't we have went in for the type of WMD's that were found number one, and number two Saddam was not allowed to have any types of WMD's of any types old, outdated, unusable contaminated or otherwise disfunctional, so what ones were we going in for if not these?

These biological and chemical weapons, which I take it you didn't bother to watch the video with all the distruction and testimonies of the Iraqi Kurds on whom the weapons were used, are deadly even in the state that we found them!
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ones that posed a threat to our country. a threat of the wmd kind.
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ARE YOU ACCUSING THE UNITED STATES MILITARY OF KILLING THESE PEOPLE? ARE YOU ACCUSING IRAQI PEOPLE OF RUNNING AWAY FROM AN OPPRESSIVE AMERICAN MILITARY? YOU HAVE ALOT TO LEARN ABOUT OUR ENEMY!! WE ARE FIGHTING AN ENEMY THAT MURDERS ALL POLICEMEN, SOLDIERS, POLITITIONS WHO SUPPORT THE NEW IRAQI DEMOCRACY! AND IF THE ENEMY DOESENT HAVE ACCESS TO THEM THEY FIND OUT WHERE THERE FAMILIES LIVE AND DECAPITATE THEIR CHILDREN!! WE HAVE AN ENEMY THAT DETONATES BOMBS NEXT TO JOB FAIRS AND ELECTION POLLS! WE HAVE AN ENEMY THAT WEARS NO UNIFORM AND HIDES BEHIND THE INNOCENT BY FIREING AT US FROM MOSQUES, SCHOOLS, AND PEOPLES HOUSES! AND YOUR BLAMEING OUR TROOPS FOR THE ACTIONS OF OUR ENEMIES!!?? HOW DARE YOU! WE ARENT MURDERERS! WE DONT TORTURE! IM WILLING TO BET THAT YOU WANT THESE MURDERERS TO TAKE CHARGE OF IRAQ! IM WILLING TO BET YOU COULD CARE LESS OF WHAT YHEY WILL DO TO THE IRAQI PEOPLE!! IM WILLING TO BET THAT YOU COULD CARE LESS THAT OUR ENEMIES CLAIM VICTORY AND ESTABLISH A TERRORIST STATE IN IRAQ! AS AN UNITED STATES MARINE I RESENT EVERY THING YOU JUST POSTED! YOUR AN UNGREATFUL DISCRACE TO ALL OF US WHO SERVE! DO US A FAVOR! SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND QUIT AIDING OUR ENEMIES BECAUSE IN THE END YOU ARENT THE ONE WHO GETS TO SEE THEM FACE TO FACE!


NEWS FLASH MORON! YOU QUOTED A LINK FROM 2005!
I need to shut my mouth? Brawn before brains, right? I have many friends in Iraq and between tours, and I know much more about the enemy than you think. I finished my days in the USN, had I been sent on another tour I would be in Iraq right now. You seriously need to think before you post. There's this thing called free speech, I could care less if you think I'm a disgrace to 'those who serve' because I've already done my time.

I quoted a link from 2005 because Saddam's army casualties ended around 2003 when they were destroyed.

Did I blame anyone for anyone else's actions? Think about that. No one gets the blunt end of a few power-bent marines who torture against orders. I present it, if you hate me for it then go on hating; that's a reason we have wars. We already know what happens on the other side.

Would you be willing to bet this could have been solved peacefully? I would. It can still be solved peacefully. Why can't people see this? THERE IS ALWAYS A PEACEFUL ALTERNATIVE MEANS. ALWAYS. We just need to think about it more. This argument between you and I would never have happened, if our government would have been wise enough to keep our military out of the situation.

Don't give me your typical pro-war bullsh!t and say I'm a disgrace when I stand up for my beliefs. I'm more grateful than you can imagine that I have the right to disagree with single minded servicemen led by political and high ranking war mongrels.

We didn't ever have a right to go there and you know it. You know you talk about chances to 'rip out spines' even though it's an exaggeration. You know marines like to fight, everyone knows this. That sort of dialogue doesn't work on me.

And yes, our next presidential candidate, McCain, has already said Iraq should be an indefinite militaristic asset ('100 years').
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Personally I like the 'no you can't' send up clip, where he says 10,000 years. I suppose he was exagerating, but the last line "withdrawl date:12,008...good luck with that in november" classic.
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And yes, our next presidential candidate, McCain, has already said Iraq should be an indefinite militaristic asset ('100 years').
Well even if McCain is elected, I doubt he'll be alive 100 years from now let alone still be president. So I don't think it will be his sole decision. That being said, maybe FDR or Truman can get us a date for withdrawal from Japan and Germany.
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Well even if McCain is elected, I doubt he'll be alive 100 years from now let alone still be president. So I don't think it will be his sole decision. That being said, maybe FDR or Truman can get us a date for withdrawal from Japan and Germany.
Or Cuba Did we really have a war there?
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Well even if McCain is elected, I doubt he'll be alive 100 years from now let alone still be president. So I don't think it will be his sole decision. That being said, maybe FDR or Truman can get us a date for withdrawal from Japan and Germany.
maybe. i dont want our soldiers there. those places are so volatile, and terrorists are working to harm americans there, every single day.
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Or Cuba Did we really have a war there?
Yeah but that was Spanish-American War, 1898. We'd have to wake up William McKinley to get his date for withdrawal.
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