Is Iraq war part of War on Terrorism? - Page 5

Cristian · #41 (**permalink**) 03-27-2004, 05:19 PM

Many especially in Guatemala and Panama and other nations in the world.

Yes, they even created Saddam Hussein to fight Iran !!!!

So, we have terrorists fighting the terrorists they created !!!

SenaxFlatulus · #42 (**permalink**) 03-27-2004, 07:39 PM

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Yes, they even created Saddam Hussein to fight Iran !!!!

Saddam and the Baathist party staged their own coup. The U.S. didn't back Saddam until the Carter administration, which was quite a while after Saddam killed his way into power.

maze51 · #43 (**permalink**) 03-27-2004, 08:13 PM

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This had NOTHING to do with 9/11, but that's all the GOP keeps yapping about when discussing Iraq.

Ding Ding Ding We have a winner.

You can say all you want about how Saddam was a bad man. He was. There are many around. One in North Korea that actually HAS a WOMD is certainly more of a threat. And these mysterious un-named links to Al-Qeada are weak at best. I'm sure many countries, including the USA, could have those kind of weak links if you tried to spin it right. But in reality, that is pretty much what it is, spin. No link to 9/11 at all.

Let's see:

HAMAS; blow up innocent children and destroy all life of the ones they hate for their "justified" cause and no negotiation has ever worked.

Al Qaeda; mission is to blow up innocent children and destroy all life of the ones they hate for their "justified" cause and no negotiation has ever worked.

Hizballah; mission is to blow up innocent children and destroy all life of the ones they hate for their "justified" cause and no negotiation has ever worked.

al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades; mission is to blow up innocent children and destroy all life of the ones they hate for their "justified" cause and no negotiation has ever worked.

Abu Nidal Organization; mission is to blow up innocent children and destroy all life of the ones they hate for their "justified" cause and no negotiation has ever worked.

Naw, there's no connection here, ya think?

Having read many posts with such a myopic scope of the world terrorist organizations just boggles my mind. This is definitely a global issue and if you think for one second that it is not, then you better be really up on camping, hunting and fishing because life as you know will cease to exist. The main objective of these organizations is not to physically destroy our country (USA) because they counld'nt, but if they could managed to destroy 90% of our economy, you can only imagine the consequences.

SporkLord · #44 (**permalink**) 03-28-2004, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by maze51";p=&quot

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Originally Posted by Hard-Driver";p=&quot

Look, I

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Originally Posted by RTruth";p=&quot

This had NOTHING to do with 9/11, but that's all the GOP keeps yapping about when discussing Iraq.

Ding Ding Ding We have a winner.

You can say all you want about how Saddam was a bad man. He was. There are many around. One in North Korea that actually HAS a WOMD is certainly more of a threat. And these mysterious un-named links to Al-Qeada are weak at best. I'm sure many countries, including the USA, could have those kind of weak links if you tried to spin it right. But in reality, that is pretty much what it is, spin. No link to 9/11 at all.

Let's see:

HAMAS; blow up innocent children and destroy all life of the ones they hate for their "justified" cause and no negotiation has ever worked.

Al Qaeda; mission is to blow up innocent children and destroy all life of the ones they hate for their "justified" cause and no negotiation has ever worked.

Hizballah; mission is to blow up innocent children and destroy all life of the ones they hate for their "justified" cause and no negotiation has ever worked.

al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades; mission is to blow up innocent children and destroy all life of the ones they hate for their "justified" cause and no negotiation has ever worked.

Abu Nidal Organization; mission is to blow up innocent children and destroy all life of the ones they hate for their "justified" cause and no negotiation has ever worked.

Naw, there's no connection here, ya think?

Having read many posts with such a myopic scope of the world terrorist organizations just boggles my mind. This is definitely a global issue and if you think for one second that it is not, then you better be really up on camping, hunting and fishing because life as you know will cease to exist. The main objective of these organizations is not to physically destroy our country (USA) because they counld'nt, but if they could managed to destroy 90% of our economy, you can only imagine the consequences.

Those groups listed actually have quite different scopes, agendas, and capabilities. You can't just classify all groups who conduct attacks on civilians (terrorist attacks) as the same, otherwise where is the IRA, ETA, Abu Sayaf, FARC... on that list? Why aren't we hunting them with such fervor?
By this logic, we should invade northern Ireland and get them!

maze51 · #45 (**permalink**) 03-28-2004, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SporkLord";p=&quot

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Originally Posted by maze51";p=&quot

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Originally Posted by Hard-Driver";p=&quot

Look, I

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Originally Posted by RTruth";p=&quot

This had NOTHING to do with 9/11, but that's all the GOP keeps yapping about when discussing Iraq.

Ding Ding Ding We have a winner.

You can say all you want about how Saddam was a bad man. He was. There are many around. One in North Korea that actually HAS a WOMD is certainly more of a threat. And these mysterious un-named links to Al-Qeada are weak at best. I'm sure many countries, including the USA, could have those kind of weak links if you tried to spin it right. But in reality, that is pretty much what it is, spin. No link to 9/11 at all.

Let's see:

HAMAS; blow up innocent children and destroy all life of the ones they hate for their "justified" cause and no negotiation has ever worked.

Al Qaeda; mission is to blow up innocent children and destroy all life of the ones they hate for their "justified" cause and no negotiation has ever worked.

Hizballah; mission is to blow up innocent children and destroy all life of the ones they hate for their "justified" cause and no negotiation has ever worked.

al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades; mission is to blow up innocent children and destroy all life of the ones they hate for their "justified" cause and no negotiation has ever worked.

Abu Nidal Organization; mission is to blow up innocent children and destroy all life of the ones they hate for their "justified" cause and no negotiation has ever worked.

Naw, there's no connection here, ya think?

Having read many posts with such a myopic scope of the world terrorist organizations just boggles my mind. This is definitely a global issue and if you think for one second that it is not, then you better be really up on camping, hunting and fishing because life as you know will cease to exist. The main objective of these organizations is not to physically destroy our country (USA) because they counld'nt, but if they could managed to destroy 90% of our economy, you can only imagine the consequences.

Those groups listed actually have quite different scopes, agendas, and capabilities. You can't just classify all groups who conduct attacks on civilians (terrorist attacks) as the same, otherwise where is the IRA, ETA, Abu Sayaf, FARC... on that list? Why aren't we hunting them with such fervor?
By this logic, we should invade northern Ireland and get them!

You are kidding aren't you? I can't remember the last time the IRA threaten and aided like terrorist groups to destroy our country.

THIS IS A WAR ON TERROR, OUR TERROR, AND YOU BETTER BE READY TO DEFEND THAT!

SporkLord · #46 (**permalink**) 03-28-2004, 03:45 AM

You can't remember when IRA made threats? Open up a history book, you should find quite some examples. The IRA is specifically dedicated to the northen Ireland conflict, but has conducted terrorist attacks in mainland UK.
By going after terrorism not just radical islamist terrorism, we should be going after terrorism in all of its variants. Or are we just dedicated to hunting islamic terrorists? Or perhaps just terrorists with interests in harming the USA?

For then its not a "global war" on terror (...ism), its a US "war" on radical islamic terror (...ism).

Or just the oil...

EiregoSod · #47 (**permalink**) 03-28-2004, 04:27 AM

Actually the IRA has been on ceasefire for most of the past 10 years, as have Loyalist terrorists too.

SenaxFlatulus · #48 (**permalink**) 03-28-2004, 04:45 AM

The IRA hasn't sworn itself to defeat or exterminate America nor has it taken any action against Americans that I know of. While this doesn't make what they did any less reprehensible, there is a huge difference between the IRA and al Qaeda.

If any evidence of a plot to blow up something by the IRA was uncovered, or any intelligence is discovered by us, I'd be willing to bet that the CIA/FBI would pass it along to the proper authorities in the proper country. Most agencies make an effort to cooperate with each other when lives are at stake. They use things such as Interpol, and they share liason personnell with each other. It's sort of like a "cross pollination" process.

maze51 · #49 (**permalink**) 03-28-2004, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SporkLord";p=&quot

You can't remember when IRA made threats? Open up a history book, you should find quite some examples. The IRA is specifically dedicated to the northen Ireland conflict, but has conducted terrorist attacks in mainland UK.
By going after terrorism not just radical islamist terrorism, we should be going after terrorism in all of its variants. Or are we just dedicated to hunting islamic terrorists? Or perhaps just terrorists with interests in harming the USA?

For then its not a "global war" on terror (...ism), its a US "war" on radical islamic terror (...ism).

Or just the oil...

...if it is not in my interest or benefit stay out of it. The IRA has never attacked the USA, and other than humanitarian, we have no interest in Ireland. Yes, it is the oil that is in our and the worlds vital interests. As I said, all countries do things for other countries that are only in their best interest. Try and name a single one that doesn't. The United States isn't the world police even though you think we are.

Hard-Driver · #50 (**permalink**) 03-28-2004, 06:02 AM

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The IRA hasn't sworn itself to defeat or exterminate America nor has it taken any action against Americans that I know of. While this doesn't make what they did any less reprehensible, there is a huge difference between the IRA and al Qaeda.

If any evidence of a plot to blow up something by the IRA was uncovered, or any intelligence is discovered by us, I'd be willing to bet that the CIA/FBI would pass it along to the proper authorities in the proper country. Most agencies make an effort to cooperate with each other when lives are at stake. They use things such as Interpol, and they share liason personnell with each other. It's sort of like a "cross pollination" process.

So let me get this strait. We should invade Iraq because of terror links to the PLO and the Palistinean cause. Because these are the ONLY terror links that Iraq ahs been shown to have. Yet at the same time you claim that the IRA is different because "The IRA hasn't sworn itself to defeat or exterminate America nor has it taken any action against Americans" Both the IRA and PLO are local terrorist organizations with specific causes.

That is called talking out of both sides of your mouth.

View Poll Results: Was the War in Iraq part of the war on terrorism?
Yes, it has reduced the risk of terrorism	75	32.75%
No, it has actually created a new source for terrorism in the world	154	67.25%
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