Q: Does The fact that Obama went to Church with this guy as his spiritual advisor for 20 years reflect negativly on Obamas Judgement?



We know that in order to go to Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago you must adhear to the "Black Value System" http://www.tucc.org/scholarship_pdf/black%20value%20system.pdf

We know that his church refers to itself as: "Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian," while the "Black Value System" encourages parishioners to be "soldiers for Black freedom and the dignity of all humankind." http://www.tucc.org/about.htm

We know that Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr Married Barak Obama and his wife.

We know that Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr Baptised Barak Obama's children.

We know that Barak Obama and his wife have gone to this Church for over 20 years.

We know that Barak Obams had dedicated his book to Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.

Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr Has said the following:

1) Wright on 9/11: "White America got their wake-up call after 9/11. White America and the Western world came to realize people of color had not gone away, faded in the woodwork, or just disappeared as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns." On the Sunday after the attacks, Dr. Wright blamed America.

2) Wright on the disappearance of Natalee Holloway: "Black women are being raped daily in Africa. One white girl from Alabama gets drunk at a graduation trip to Aruba, goes off and gives it up while in a foreign country and that stays in the news for months."

3) Wright on Israel: "The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for over 40 years now. Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community and wake up Americans concerning the injustice and the racism under which the Palestinians have lived because of Zionism."

4) Wright on America: He has used the term "middleclassness" in a derogatory manner; frequently mentions "white arrogance" and the "oppression" of African-Americans today; and has referred to "this racist United States of America."

5) Wright on America II: “The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing ‘God Bless America.’ No, no, no, God (*)(*)(*)(*) America, that’s in the Bible for killing innocent people,” he said in a 2003 sermon. “God (*)(*)(*)(*) America for treating our citizens as less than human. God (*)(*)(*)(*) America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme.”

6) Wright on why Americans deserved 9/11: “We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye,” “We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost,” he told his congregation.

7) Wright on Louis Farrakhan: On the contrary, the article in the November/December issue of Trumpet begins by calling Farrakhan — who refers to Jews as bloodsuckers and whites as blue-eyed devils — an “icon.” It ends by saying that he “truly epitomized greatness.”

8 ) Wright on Aids: "The government created AIDS to infect and kill black people"

9) Wright Video #1
10) Wright Video #2
11) Wright Video #3)

yes, religion makes no sense!!! why obama?! why?!?!

luckily, he manages to keep his professional life professional. so i guess it kinda makes up for it.

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btw its 'Pastor'


Then again considering what you can step in in a Pasture either applies...

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McCain/Palin 2008
"We make war that we may live in peace"
"Peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever."
"Keep that faith,keep your courage,stick together, stay strong,do not yield,do not flinch,stand up,we're Americans,we'll never surrender they will"
http://members.cox.net/neddy/bobhope_kerfuffles.wmv
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RnfflRNpwKA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=j-QYIP7o2-A

Toby, your title is amusing, I can only hope intentionally.

Its fair to say people that are interested in using this politically aren't interested in truly understanding the guy, and presentations such as your own aren't going to help. I'm sure you know this so I won't labour the point. Just know that such partisan presentations aren't good for the long term. Cheers.

LOL. You cant hold Obama Accountable for this one but it says alot about his voting base. Check out the Che Gevera Flag above the office where his supporters voulinteer.

It means they focus on different aspects of Che than you do. And like those aspects. Perhaps they haev a more wholistic understanding of the man, perhaps you do.

But no, just score some more political points...same thing throughout, people offer their own interpretations of a person, not interested in the truth, not interested in learning.

Che Gueverra was a mass murderer.
But hey Josef Mengele was a great doctor why don't we make a T-Shirt....

BTW its 'holistic'.

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McCain/Palin 2008
"We make war that we may live in peace"
"Peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever."
"Keep that faith,keep your courage,stick together, stay strong,do not yield,do not flinch,stand up,we're Americans,we'll never surrender they will"
http://members.cox.net/neddy/bobhope_kerfuffles.wmv
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RnfflRNpwKA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=j-QYIP7o2-A

DuH2, please see how my post already deals with what you said. I don't wear his shirt or w/e cause I don't know anything about him.

Is it? d***.

Mengele T-Shirts! OMG! F! Awsome. I can't tell how hard I laughed at that one! I think I will try sell me some of those, I'll make a fortune off these ignorant leftist tards!

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"We should Invade Their Countries, Kill Their Leaders, and Convert Them to Christianity." Ann Coulter
Thank You, and God Bless America!

Only if you're named Richard.

__________________
McCain/Palin 2008
"We make war that we may live in peace"
"Peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever."
"Keep that faith,keep your courage,stick together, stay strong,do not yield,do not flinch,stand up,we're Americans,we'll never surrender they will"
http://members.cox.net/neddy/bobhope_kerfuffles.wmv
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RnfflRNpwKA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=j-QYIP7o2-A