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View Poll Results: war with Iran? / near or not?
I'm against it / it'll happen soon. 12 20.34%
I'm against it / it won't happen soon. 26 44.07%
I'm in favor of it / it'll happen soon. 10 16.95%
I'm in favor of it / it won't happen soon. 11 18.64%
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Eleanor, please explain what these terrible things are that Iran has done against the US, and how they are so much worse (if at all) than the stuff the US did against Iran at a much earlier date?

Or is this yet another case that the US is allowed to do stuff to other countries and it never approaches being terrorism or sanction/support of terrorism, whereas when those countries do something even remotely similar against the US, especially if in retaliation, it is just cause for war in the name of democracy and liberty?

I really am inerested to see an explanation of the logic involved, because I cant find it - the logic, I mean. On the contrary, all I keep seeing is two-faced ego-centric warmongering.
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Arguing which side is on the side of justice is a waste of time because it is totally apparent that the iranian regime is evil to the core for anyone with any sense. However, for the point at hand, it is completely irrelevant. iran continues to commit acts of war against us and the fact is its going to cost them control of their country soon. You can make ridiculous assertions that iran is justified in its terrorism if you like but they are going to get their butts kicked regardless, and soon.
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Arguing which side is on the side of justice is a waste of time because it is totally apparent that the iranian regime is evil to the core for anyone with any sense.
Why is the Iranian regime evil? Is that your opinion, or do you actually have proff to back this up?

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However, for the point at hand, it is completely irrelevant. iran continues to commit acts of war against us and the fact is its going to cost them control of their country soon.
Tell me an act of war Iran has committed against the US in the last decade or longer? Can you tell me? No, of course not.

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You can make ridiculous assertions that iran is justified in its terrorism if you like but they are going to get their butts kicked regardless, and soon.
I am going to love it when all the countires have finally had enough of the US and band together and kick your butt. That day will come, mark my words.
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I am going to love it when all the countires have finally had enough of the US and band together and kick your butt. That day will come, mark my words.
LMAO !! bring it on
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LMAO !! bring it on
It might happen, because I think enough people are sick to death of the US trying to control everything and everyone.
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Why is the Iranian regime evil? Is that your opinion, or do you actually have proff to back this up?
Who's opinion should it be but mine? If I said I was merely mouthing other people's opinions, would it matter? Of course it is my opinion and of course I have proof. I didn't pick say, Jamaica, to call out for bombing/invasion now did I? No, I call for iran, a terrorist state, funding and sponsoring terrorism, for decades, to be bombed to submission or be forced to change regimes. I can offer thousands of links of evidence. Don't bother to claim their terrorism is justified and blab on about how the good guys are really the terrorists. I will ignore you.

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Tell me an act of war Iran has committed against the US in the last decade or longer? Can you tell me? No, of course not.
Well, we still owe them big time for holding our people hostage, hostages taken by illegally raiding a diplomatic embassy. We should have bombed them into oblivion then, but since then they have continued to fund and sponsor terrorism through their proxies hezzbolah and hamas, and others and are now funding and supporting terrorism against us in afghanistan and iraq.

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I am going to love it when all the countires have finally had enough of the US and band together and kick your butt. That day will come, mark my words.
Then you are a total fool. The day will not come because in the end intelligence and culture is more powerful than the ignorant mob. But, if it did come, it would be the end of modern civilization.
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Qur'an 9:5 Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.

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Well, we still owe them big time for holding our people hostage, hostages taken by illegally raiding a diplomatic embassy. We should have bombed them into oblivion then, but since then they have continued to fund and sponsor terrorism through their proxies hezzbolah and hamas, and others.
So this is simply payback for something they did in the past? Any current crimes against the US?

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Then you are a total fool. The day will not come because in the end intelligence and culture is more powerful than the ignorant mob. But, if it did come, it would be the end of modern civilization.
The US is intelligent? I would never have guessed...
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So this is simply payback for something they did in the past? Any current crimes against the US?
You really need to learn to read more carefully and listen rather than speak when you haven't. From the sentence you quoted:

"but since then they have continued to fund and sponsor terrorism through their proxies hezzbolah and hamas, and others."

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The US is intelligent? I would never have guessed...
Are you claiming that there are no intelligent people in America or that on average America is not intelligent? It really must be awful to look in awe at the greatest country in the history of the world and believe they are less intelligent then you are. I can see how one would think the world is very unfair with such a worldview.

Cheer up, you can believe you are as intelligent as you want.
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You really need to learn to read more carefully and listen rather than speak when you haven't. From the sentence you quoted:

"but since then they have continued to fund and sponsor terrorism through their proxies hezzbolah and hamas, and others."
That's not a crime against the US. That is simply something you don't like.

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Are you claiming that there are no intelligent people in America or that on average America is not intelligent? It really must be awful to look in awe at the greatest country in the history of the world and believe they are less intelligent then you are. I can see how one would think the world is very unfair with such a worldview.
The greatest country? Give me a break. The US is the country everyone laughs at when something 'Only in America' comes out and makes you a laughing stock.
I still get a laugh over the Nipplegate 'scandal'. The world laughed then, and they still laugh now.
Know what many people in other countries hate? The fact you continually see yourselves as 'the greatest country' when people in other countries don't agree.
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