War with Iran - Page 9

sunnyside · #81 (**permalink**) 04-29-2008, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by akc814ilv

We should stop trying to be a bully and instead try some diplomacy for once.

Well at the moment we seem to be trying our best at diplomacy. Actually managing to stop some Russian weapon shipments supposedly and getting some sanction put on Iran.

The trick with all this is that they have the nuke plant that they have, and either they run it have have access to plutonium or they don't run it. This binary nature of the problem makes middle ground harder to find.

akc814ilv · #82 (**permalink**) 04-30-2008, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sunnyside

Well at the moment we seem to be trying our best at diplomacy. Actually managing to stop some Russian weapon shipments supposedly and getting some sanction put on Iran.

The trick with all this is that they have the nuke plant that they have, and either they run it have have access to plutonium or they don't run it. This binary nature of the problem makes middle ground harder to find.

Oh I agree that its a sticky situation, and yes I agree that we have been using SOME diplomacy. But I think it could be increased quite a bit.

Im not smart enough to know how to solve this problem...I have no problem admitting that. I DO know that going to war isnt going to fix the problem though.

Even if we stopped Iran we would just be pissing their citizens off and probably numerous other countries around the globe.

namvet · #83 (**permalink**) 05-01-2008, 05:46 AM

I would prefer to wait and hope it will implode on itself. the people there have has a gut full of Khomeini and his puppet mongoloid, Ahmadinejad. Bush isn't gonna strike. and why should he???? I think any attack will be spear headed by the Israelis. while we sit around and argue and debate it the Israelis have already hit it. their not hindered by politics. their biggest enemy is the world press anyway. and they demonstrated that last year when they hit a site in Syria. which also killed 10 north koreans

Herkdriver · #84 (**permalink**) 05-01-2008, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akc814ilv

Oh I agree that its a sticky situation, and yes I agree that we have been using SOME diplomacy. But I think it could be increased quite a bit.

Im not smart enough to know how to solve this problem...I have no problem admitting that. I DO know that going to war isnt going to fix the problem though.

Even if we stopped Iran we would just be pissing their citizens off and probably numerous other countries around the globe.

“It is better to jaw-jaw than to war-war," ~

Winston Churchill

The loudest advocates of war, frequently have never experienced it.

klipkap · #85 (**permalink**) 05-01-2008, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by eleanoraquitaine

We are ALREADY at war with iran. They are fighting our troops in Iraq and they have been committing illegal acts of war (terrorism) against us for decades.

Well Eleanora, has the US ever commited illegal acts against Iran - and which of these two countries started the "you hit me" schoolyard game first? Once answered, what do you think of this history that makes you draw the above conclusions?

klipkap · #86 (**permalink**) 05-01-2008, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by skooter

i really .... dislike iran.
they sponsor terrorism.
they give weapons to insurgents fighting the US in iraq.
the country is run by religious zealots.
and they openly say they want israel to be destroyed, and israel is one of our best friends.
and then there's the nuke thing.
i would love to attack iran.
but we should at least talk to them first. reopen diplomatic relations and try and be friends. try and work things out.
and if that doesn't work .... then we attack them.

i don't think it will happen soon, because Bush already has his hands full with iraq, and none of the candidates want anything to do with another war in the middle east.
unless iran attacks israel, there's not likely to be a war.

so 'no'

'no'

Skooter, my guess is that you might not be aware of what the following were nor are you aware of their implications for current events:
# Mohammed Mosaddeq
# Operation Ajax
# The origin of the word Blowback
# The implications of the above for 4 November 1979 and its knock-on effects to this day

If you are, then your post is pure nationalist bigotry and yet another case of US double standards.

Lemme know which, if you have time

AmusedToDeath · #87 (**permalink**) 05-01-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by skooter

i really .... dislike iran.
they sponsor terrorism.
they give weapons to insurgents fighting the US in iraq.
the country is run by religious zealots.
and they openly say they want israel to be destroyed, and israel is one of our best friends.
and then there's the nuke thing.
i would love to attack iran.
but we should at least talk to them first. reopen diplomatic relations and try and be friends. try and work things out.
and if that doesn't work .... then we attack them.

i don't think it will happen soon, because Bush already has his hands full with iraq, and none of the candidates want anything to do with another war in the middle east.
unless iran attacks israel, there's not likely to be a war.

so 'no'

'no'

Interesting PRO's for attacking Iran... Kinda childish... But OK, if that counts too in USA...

eleanoraquitaine · #88 (**permalink**) 05-01-2008, 04:12 PM

New USA carrier group to the Persian Gulf, more than enough to topple the iranian regime any day we want, easily.

The death of the iranian regime is near and rarely in history is such a revolution been more needed and deserved. I am eager to see the bombs start falling on the iranian islamoterrorists.

namvet · #89 (**permalink**) 05-01-2008, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by eleanoraquitaine

New USA carrier group to the Persian Gulf, more than enough to topple the iranian regime any day we want, easily.

The death of the iranian regime is near and rarely in history is such a revolution been more needed and deserved. I am eager to see the bombs start falling on the iranian islamoterrorists.

should be relief. the strike force has been there a long time now. probably saber rattling for now. but it does contain a strike force of marines as well.......

eleanoraquitaine · #90 (**permalink**) 05-01-2008, 04:32 PM

I agree this isn't the moment of our choosing, but iran will start the direct confrontation when they get red handed killing or attempting to kill our people. They underestimate the strength of the military as do the appeaser propagandists and appeasers. The presence of another carrier group is still a sign of the overall escalation on the part of iran and the preparedness of the USA to finally and utterly destroy their stupid pack of islamoterrorist leaders.

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