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View Poll Results: Would it be racist to vote for Obama simply because he is black?
It would be racist. 12 80.00%
It woudl not be racist. 0 0%
I am not quite sure. 3 20.00%
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Old 06-07-2008, 03:57 PM
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It definatly is. And I always thought they were the party who preached equality the loudest.
Isnt it amazing that for two candidates that have almost exactly the same policys have such a racial devide among them? Especially when it comes to the Black Vote? You would figure that they would be neck and neck in all demographics. But nope. When whites are voting nearly 50/50 and blacks are voting 90/10. Not to mention that white Iowa voted for Obama.
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Isnt it amazing that for two candidates that have almost exactly the same policys have such a racial devide among them? Especially when it comes to the Black Vote? You would figure that they would be neck and neck in all demographics. But nope. When whites are voting nearly 50/50 and blacks are voting 90/10. Not to mention that white Iowa voted for Obama.
Isn't it amusing that blacks have voted in large numbers for white candidates such as Bill Clinton & JFK, but no time in history has the white race voted for any other race in large numbers. There are states that has never had a governor that has not been white. This country has never had a president that has not been white. It sounds like the white race is the bias voters. The black race is way ahead of the white race when it comes to voting in large numbers for differing races.
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Lets not present these flawed statistics, when blacks voted for Bill Clinton in large number. Also lets recognized that for the last 200 years, whites have been more likely to vote for whites, evidence being that there has never been a non-white president despite America being so multi-cultural.

Flawed? Remeber that whites voted Around 60/40 for Hillary over Obama. Probaly because Hillary carried the Female Vote. YET THEY HAVE ALMOST THE EXACT SAME POLICYS. Blacks Voted for Obama 90/10 over Hillary. AND STILL YET THEY HAVE ALMOST THE EXACT SAME POLICYS. I think race played a big roll in the democratic nomination.
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Flawed? Remeber that whites voted Around 60/40 for Hillary over Obama. Probaly because Hillary carried the Female Vote. YET THEY HAVE ALMOST THE EXACT SAME POLICYS. Blacks Voted for Obama 90/10 over Hillary. AND STILL YET THEY HAVE ALMOST THE EXACT SAME POLICYS. I think race played a big roll in the democratic nomination.
I am not about to get into a racial argument because we know which side the real racism has come from for the last 200 years. We also know which race the last 43 presidents have been. And, we know that without the black vote, the non-white candidate would have been the democratic nominee once again with majority white vote. So, in conclusion, the last 43 presidents have been white because of the bias voting of whites. Obama & Hillary have the same policy, but yet, more whites voted for Hillary...specially the old white individuals who were around back in the 1950s & 60s. I wonder why she has so many votes from the same white individuals who were around during the civil rights movement. Is it her policy? I highly doubt it.

Also, lets not accuse the black race of racism, when blacks have been voting for whites on a 100% margin since we were given the right to vote. Bill Clinton and JFK are two examples.
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Also, lets not accuse the black race of racism, when blacks have been voting for whites on a 100% margin since we were given the right to vote. Bill Clinton and JFK are two examples.
The black vote has already been united. That applies to the vote for JFK and Bill Clinton. Blacks have always picked 1 candidate, through black radio or word of mouth, and everyone agree on voting for that person.
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Isn't it amusing that blacks have voted in large numbers for white candidates such as Bill Clinton & JFK, but no time in history has the white race voted for any other race in large numbers. There are states that has never had a governor that has not been white. This country has never had a president that has not been white. It sounds like the white race is the bias voters. The black race is way ahead of the white race when it comes to voting in large numbers for differing races.
One difference. Blacks have always voted for liberals. Liberals view people by race and subsidize accordingly. Conservatives believe that were all americans and deserve no privlages based on the color of skin. However this is a primary. This is a liberal vs a liberal. Or in this case a black liberal vs a white liberal WITH NEARLY THE EXACT SAME POLOCYS! We know that Blacks voted for Bill because they always vote democrat. However this is different because its democrat vs democtat. Not democrat vs republican.

On your second point white people voted nearly 50/50 for Hillary and Obama. Obama even got most of the white vote in some caucases and primarys. Its the exact opposite for Clinton. Obama got 90/10 percent of the black vote which IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE over 50/50 in a contest where to democrats have almost the exact same polocys.

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The black vote has already been united. That applies to the vote for JFK and Bill Clinton. Blacks have always picked 1 candidate, through black radio or word of mouth, and everyone agree on voting for that person.
JFK and Bill Clinton? Liberals have always got the Black vote. Therefor when its between a Democrat and a Republican Democrats will always get the black vote. But this is a Democrat vs a Democrat. BIIIIIG Difference!
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I am not about to get into a racial argument because we know which side the real racism has come from for the last 200 years. We also know which race the last 43 presidents have been. And, we know that without the black vote, the non-white candidate would have been the democratic nominee once again with majority white vote. So, in conclusion, the last 43 presidents have been white because of the bias voting of whites. Obama & Hillary have the same policy, but yet, more whites voted for Hillary...specially the old white individuals who were around back in the 1950s & 60s. I wonder why she has so many votes from the same white individuals who were around during the civil rights movement. Is it her policy? I highly doubt it.

Also, lets not accuse the black race of racism, when blacks have been voting for whites on a 100% margin since we were given the right to vote. Bill Clinton and JFK are two examples.
Hi Kenny. Nice debate. I do not want to get into it myself since it is my poll and I am just looking to see if people think it is racist, not the reasons behind it. Looking back I suppose the question should have included McCain. Hindsight is 20/20. Perhaps another poll.

The reason I am responding to your comments is that I am curious about your use of the phrase "real racism". What do you think "real racism" is? I don't want to simply make an assumption.
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If you vote for Obama because he is black then you are racist. If you vote for McCain because he is white, then you are racist. It is that simple. Race shouldn't matter. Hitler was white. The D.C. sniper is black. Would you vote for either one of them. You shouldn't let race be a factor.
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If you vote for Obama because he is black then you are racist.
While that is very true, Obama supporters will never agree with you, especially since Obama is not black.
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