Social security and medicare saved a few generations from the ravages of old age and poverty. All solutions have faults and are in need of reevaluation and a fix or an overhaul or even a different approach. But to ignore the great success of most great society and FDR policies as many conservatives do is idiocy masquerading as informed opinion.

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When a true genius appears in the world, you may know them by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against them.
-Jonathan Swift

---"Thoughts On Various Subjects, Moral and Diverting."

people do not always make good decisions for themselves and even when they do the 'free' market is filled with deceit, deception and disgrace. as a society (not as individuals) it behooves us to look after one another where it is warranted. we are in this together. for better or worse, as the least of us is treated by the greater part of society, so shall our society go. if we are mean and stingy and inclined to look out only for ourselves we will become mean and stingy to each other and we will all drown in our own crap.

we are nothing without the support of society. no one makes it on their own. everyone gets help somewhere.

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When a true genius appears in the world, you may know them by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against them.
-Jonathan Swift

---"Thoughts On Various Subjects, Moral and Diverting."

I'd love to see what partial medical care is like.


lol

doc: "sir, you need your leg cut off in order to save your life"

patient: "but doc, I'm only partially covered"

doc: "nurse, call in the next patient..this will not take as long as I thought"

doc to patient: "take two placebo pills and call me in the morning" "if you live past the night you're a medical miracle"

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When a true genius appears in the world, you may know them by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against them.
-Jonathan Swift

---"Thoughts On Various Subjects, Moral and Diverting."

Thats not my fault and i should not be punished for it! They should be allowed to fail and lern the lession form their failure. The purpose of goverment is not to prevent people from failing by throwing otherpeoples money at their problems!

Yes that "evil capitalist free market". Giving people jobs, goods and services who are to stupid to make descisions for them selves. Your right! The goverment knows better than they do when it comes to their own interests. The goverment knows whats best for thieir familys. Right?

Thats right but its not the goverments job to look over one another! And people should be given the choice on weather we want to look after one another. Thats true liberty and freedom! We should not be punished simply because there are people who arent a lucky as we are!

No were not! Im not working to put food in your mouth cloths on your back and to give you medical care!

that descision should be made by the individual. Not the federal goverment!

Like I said. This should be the descision of the individual. Not the federal goverment. I have a right to be mean and stingy! What is this? Communism? Am I not allowed to be or act a certain way without being ridiculed or punished for it?

BUT NOT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERMENT! THAT MONEY DOESENT BELONG TO YOU! THAT MONEY IS THERE TO RAISE AN ARMY, AND MAKE & ENFORCE LAWS. THATS IT. NOTHING ELTS! NADA!

Weeeedoooggie, Toby sure do hate Americans.

But when it comes to providing welfare and security and building schools and hospitals for iraqis, he's all for it!





ps
BabyJesus Loves You, Toby. ..even though you make him cry.

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"When I'm in command, every mission is a suicide mission!" -Capt. Zapp Branigan
The United Church of the Latter Day Tangential Tarts

Iraq is a national defence issue. And the right to be defended from thoes who want to bring harm to us is our first and most sacred roll of goverment! Our mission is to get Iraq stable enough to sustain itself without becoming a juhadists oil funded wet dream. No one can argue that pulling out of Iraq prematurely will have a positive effect on the U.S.! Now that the Iraqi oil feilds are up and running we have considerably played less of a role in using our own money to build Iraq. Now were mostly funding our presence there. There is no hypocracy here. You have a national defence issue on one hand and a rediculous domestic issue on the other. Apples to oranges! Have you been to Iraq by the way?

Univeral Health Care will backfire. It will result in long waits for major surgery. You will be told what vaccinces you kids have to get and when they have to have them. Eventually, you won't be able to choose your own doctor. Heil Hillary!!!

Socialism on only leads to more socialism.

Like I said, you love nationbuilding Iraq, but you hate nationbuilding the USA.

Oh, and hell no. I'm an American, I live in America. Are you an Iraqi? Is that why you love them so much?

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"When I'm in command, every mission is a suicide mission!" -Capt. Zapp Branigan
The United Church of the Latter Day Tangential Tarts