Was watching T.V and something caught my eye. It was one of those open areas in africa were all the zebras and giraffe hang out. There was this adult male lion killing these baby lions. Apparently they do it so that they can move in on there mom and mate because the lion cubs get in the way. The people on film were talking about how they can't interfere with the natural order of things. Even if its a special or endangered animal they can't intervene. They have to let things die and fight and level out because even just shooing away the lion to save the cubs would be messing with the balance.

So heres my question. Why is it that we value nature so much as not to intervene but we don't value each other that way? Why even when were talking about things like money or things people say do we feel a need to intervene and to change things to try and make it better? The lions get enough respect to handle there own affairs so why don't people? Are we no better than smelly jungle cats? Wheres our respect?

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You mean, like how we did in Iraq?

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Because it is not normal to believe you are "lucky" when you are killed or starved by the actions of other human beings. For every lion that is so "lucky" it appears many others are not.
Humans are interested in the affairs of humans, not the affairs of lions.
Lions are evolved from solitary predators somehow to live in a loose pack, actually more of a harem.
Humans have evolved to actually care about one another, have evolved as social omnivores, and use ingenuity and invention to help each other survive.

I could say you're comparing apples to oranges... but I suppose you're actually comparing lions to humans.

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Intervention in other countries is a good example.

But we can't solve every problem and certainly not without creating more problems. Aside from violence and direct forms of cruelty why should we attempt to solve problems instead of just letting things happen as there going to?

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They have a taste for africans.

We can't solve all problems at all times.
That doesn't mean that we cannot solve some.

Is our role to impartially watch people suffer like scientists or to try to alleviate suffering from other humans?
And even if our role is as scientists, what is the point if we do not put our knowledge to use?

But the real ugly secret to it all (not really a secret, but people seem obliveous) is that the suffering of others is ultimately connected to us. That suffering is the reasoning behind terrorism, revolution, black markets, illegal immigration, etc.
If it increases due to our inaction, we will spend more and more on attempting to protect ourselves, often in vain, and generally for the illusion that we can have a safe haven in the midst of chaos.
If we can decrease it we can decrease our problems.

The argument of "Well, sometimes our attempts to help fail..." does not in anyway provide support for no longer trying anything. If anything it should give us more insight into what works in what instances and what can go wrong in others.

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Jungle "cats" are not smelly. To them, you're smelly. When a "cat" gets to 750 pounds, it's no longer your "tabby".

The natural order of things is not something upon which our human notion of "cuddly" is to be imposed. It may be ugly to our perceptions, but economics dictates such actions, whether abhorrent to our senses or not. Our interference in the natural order should be in an observational sense and none other.

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Well its all well and good if your trying to stop terrorism or illegal trade but what about everything else?

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I'd say we're being pretty consistent here. Let the lions take care of lion business, and let the humans take care of human business. Sounds reasonable to me.

Things don't fit so easily into little compartments.
Terrorism has its roots in other problems. Same with illegal trade. When you're not focusing on the roots of the problems you might as well be fighting a hydra. Several new heads will pop up to replace each one you cut off.
You really need to define "everything else".

Look at illegal immigration. You can build fences and guard forces all you want. It will get more and more expensive with each passing year as long as there is a strong demand for people on the other side of the border to enter the US.
The only way to stop it is to end the demand. That requires either completely destroying our own economy... or helping Mexico to get itself into shape.
The countries near us will have the biggest effect, but don't think that countries on the other side of the world don't ultimately have effects. Any event can trigger a series of events.

Also there is the issue of opportunity cost. If the entire world was more developed, we'd all be better off. Not just for security reasons. Also we would have more markets competing at the modern level and innovating much faster. A strong global economy can dwarf any strong economy we've seen in history.

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