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View Poll Results: Who's Ultamatly Responsible For the Education Of Children In America?
Their Parents 23 51.11%
Public Schools 2 4.44%
Society 11 24.44%
Im Not Sure 0 0%
Other 9 20.00%
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ultimately its the child's responsibility, while the parents are responsible for the start of the child's education only the child can choose to learn or not to.
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i chose 'society'.
its in everybodys best interest for children to be educated.
so everybody has to be involved.
the government, the parents, the students, and of course the taxpayers.
everyone needs to get focused on making education better.
I don't think you can put this any better, but also include the schools themselves, administration, teachers. All play a key role in helping educate the students.

However the "ultimate" responsibility falls with the students themselves. I almost think schools should teach kids from day one their own role in why education is important for their future. So by the time they get to the High School level, they should be able to move in the career preparation they want and while there are general areas all students should have, other classes should be more individualized to the student's selected path.
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I don't think you can put this any better, but also include the schools themselves, administration, teachers. All play a key role in helping educate the students.

However the "ultimate" responsibility falls with the students themselves. I almost think schools should teach kids from day one their own role in why education is important for their future. So by the time they get to the High School level, they should be able to move in the career preparation they want and while there are general areas all students should have, other classes should be more individualized to the student's selected path.
I agree. I think you stated this with better clarity and more specificty than I did.
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Public libraries and the internet are 100% essential. I've been home schooled for 7 years of my education and I've pretty much been left to myself to decide what I want to learn and whether or not I actually do it. I've also found that it is more efficient and faster to teach yourself most of the time. Teachers are helpful when you just can't understand something and need extra help, but that is really the only reason they are there. You are the only one who can actually teach yourself, your teachers just show you how to do it.

That's interesting. I'm curious about this. It sounds like it worked really well for you. Did you miss the social atmosphere at school? Why did you take this route? Were you one of those high IQ kids who was bored by regular school? Share what you can.

I went through a regular public school system and did ok, but did much better when I went to college. It seems like the Mickey Mouse stuff was gone and you actually can enjoy learning more.
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Everyone needs to be focused on improving the quality of the education children receive--but it is ultimately up to the parents and, eventually, the children themselves to ensure that they receive it.
Even as a 'big government' liberal, I'm going to say the parents.

Yes, we as a society will benefit from investing in schools, so that plays a huge part,
and yes, the child will eventually have to "snap" and take personal interest and responsibility for what they learn,
but the more the parents are involved, the better a child will do.

My parents and sister are educators, and they'll tell you regardless of a childs natural ability, the more the parents are involved the better grades the child recieves.
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That's interesting. I'm curious about this. It sounds like it worked really well for you. Did you miss the social atmosphere at school? Why did you take this route? Were you one of those high IQ kids who was bored by regular school? Share what you can.
I've never actually had my IQ tested, but you're pretty much right. I didn't really miss the social environment at school, as I was still involved with my friends. I mostly took that route because regular school bored me to death because it was so slow.

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I went through a regular public school system and did ok, but did much better when I went to college. It seems like the Mickey Mouse stuff was gone and you actually can enjoy learning more.
In college they actually expect you to teach yourself. There's no hand-holding or slow classes where the teacher makes sure that everyone is paying attention or learning the material. The high school I go to is very much like that, and I know because I'm also taking classes at the University of Georgia in Athens. (I got in at age 15 so I suppose I must have been doing something right before then.)
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It is up to the parent to drive the child to learn. It is up to the student to learn, and it is up to the teachers to teach.

But ultimately, the responsibility for ensuring that the student is educated falls on the parents.

Think your kid is not being taught, the parent should handle it.

Think your kid is not trying to learn, the parent should handle it.

Legally the parent is responsible for that child. Why not hold them responsible for their education as well?
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The parents

My parents taught me to
- read and right.< They obviously didn't do a very good job!!
- how to tell right from wrong
- be responsible and do my homework
- work hard to get ahead

I have done the same for my kids.

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I think it is a combination of parents, school, and the student themselves. That is why I chose other.
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No, parents can have reactionary and demented views, and can indoctrinate their children in that way. The best way is to have uniform public schools which teach universal values etc.
whose values?
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