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View Poll Results: Would Jefferson be on the side of the terrorists again?
Yes...his history says so. 4 21.05%
Yes, he was a reactionary. 3 15.79%
Yes 2 10.53%
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Old 06-20-2008, 07:26 PM
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The Alien and Sedition Acts:

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They became a major political issue in the elections of 1798 and 1800.
One act — the Alien Enemies Act — is still in force in 2008, and has frequently been enforced in wartime.

The others expired or were repealed by 1802.

Thomas Jefferson held them all to be unconstitutional and void, then pardoned and ordered the release of all who had been convicted of violating them.
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These acts, no matter how unconstitutional...were the will of the people...at that time.
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These acts, no matter how unconstitutional...were the will of the people...at that time.
And that is why the Constitution should be above the will of the people.

Jefferson would have quite agreed.
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And that is why the Constitution should be above the will of the people.

Jefferson would have quite agreed.
How do you figure on that being possible when a majority vote can change anything in the Constitution?
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How do you figure on that being possible when a majority vote can change anything in the Constitution?
Only a super majority can.

And there is a difference between should and would. The majority could get rid of it, but it should not.
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Only a super majority can.

And there is a difference between should and would. The majority could get rid of it, but it should not.
Well, there are a few things worthy of changing in the Constitution.
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And that is why the Constitution should be above the will of the people.

Jefferson would have quite agreed.

jefferson disagreed with the will of the people when it suited his purposes.

was jefferson always on teh side of the constitution?
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How do you figure on that being possible when a majority vote can change anything in the Constitution?
how does a majority vote (of whom?) change the constitution?
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jefferson disagreed with the will of the people when it suited his purposes.

was jefferson always on teh side of the constitution?
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