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| I believe in both AGW and Evolution. |
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11 | 47.83% |
| I believe in AGW, but not Evolution. |
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1 | 4.35% |
| I believe in Evolution, but not AGW. |
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7 | 30.43% |
| I do not believe in either Evolution or AGW. |
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2 | 8.70% |
| Undecided / Other |
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2 | 8.70% |
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Flat earth has been empirically disproven. Evolution has stood up to test after test. Science does not always require recreating. That is impossible in some cases. Some phenomena are supported by the consequences of their existence- like most of physics. To "recreate" evolution is a silly notion. The closest we can do is observe all animal life for millions of years and keep really close tabs. But that will, of course, require that humans stick around on this planet for millions of years and keep really good track of zoology.
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That is why it is still theory. Until we exhaust all other possibilities, it's a theory. I'm just explaining what would be necessary to "recreate" evolution. It could not be done in a lab environment and could not occur in a human lifetime... or even in several human lifetimes.
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I actually agree with all your points, just trying to point out that it takes a leap of faith to believe in evolution.
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Evolution is still more supported by evidence than any other explanation... and keep in mind, evolution has nothing to do with whether or not there is a God or intelligence behind the universe. Some do see evolution as sort of the "way God creates".
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The whole argument for or against evolution and creation uses the same evidence - It is your belief that shapes the outcome of those facts in my ever so humble opinion.
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Even if I doubed the specifics of evolution... why would I then jump to the idea that some God created everything over a few days? I'd more likely seek another explanation that suited the facts or remain 100% agnostic on the subject than assume an explanation that is not in any way related to the facts. Evolution is a theory created by looking at the facts themselves. Creationism begins from the assumption of creation and then goes on to dismiss facts. It's not a matter of what you want to believe. It's the very direction that shapes the belief. Darwin started with the evidence... He was even troubled by it. Scientists have been building on it ever since. Creationism is not based in facts. It is assumed. And it is never built upon. The proponents simply attempt to knock down alternatives... assuming creation is the default.
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I am one of those - assuming creation is the default
Most people I know that believe in evolution are one of these believing that there is no God, being their default starting position. So most, not all creation / evolution debates start with 2 people who can never come to commen ground because the belief at the beginning give neither an area to have commen ground. So really to debate this issue you would have to start with the belief that God could have started it all and I would have to start with the belief that maybe he didn't. Then we can both openly look at the evidence and try to see what it leads us to believe. I have tried that but it always comes back to trying to figure out how it all started, which leads us back to our original positions.
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The way to avoid the conflict is to assume the irrelevance of whether there is a God or not.
Evolution focuses specifically on how physically we wound up with all this diversity of life. And the more we look, the more it looks as though there was a system of natural selection and mutation. It does not appear that all life was simply placed here. Did this process begin from chaos or because there's some God who set it up or even controls it from behind the scenes? Who knows? Science can't answer that. So to science, it is an irrelevant question. All chaos could potentially be very complicated order...
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