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View Poll Results: Given: You don't want us to leave Iraq, so Y R U here?
Uggg. Cause they're doin OK without me 1 25.00%
Uggg. Cause I might break a nail !!! 0 0%
They gotta go! They signed a Contract, NOT ME!!!! 1 25.00%
They don't want me! They're a Professional Army! 0 0%
Cause I support the troops!!! You're just a Commie! 2 50.00%
Voters: 4. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-15-2005, 06:21 AM
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Default Demonstrating Support for our Troops. Show your support here

Perhaps those are 5 of the most popular reasons you "support the troops",
but YOU don't have to go and REALLY support any troops!

The MOST IMPORTANT THINGS are:

WE support GWB!
WE say, "We can't cut and run, now!"
WE "Support our Troops!"
WE need to be here. WE've not finished College yet!!
WE'd die to protect America. That's why We're here! We're Domestic Troopers!
Shutup! YOU Commie, Liberal, Homo (*)(*)(*)!

This is the kind of reasoning that makes our Country the best in the World!
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Default Blah....

Can't you prepubescent out of school for the summer twits at least be creative? Cuz you certainly aren't unique anymore.
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Can't you prepubescent out of school for the summer twits at least be creative? Cuz you certainly aren't unique anymore.

What exactly makes you think that you are not young enough to have been sperm, when I was 30? Ahh. You figure I'm thirty one, eh?
Pull out you calculator and enter (30 X 2) - 11, and leeme know if you were even sperm when I was 30.

Unique? Hun, what were you doing in '67?
You're way outta your league. Best not to make idiotic assumptions.
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Default Well for starters, I was already birthed in 1967,

so I wasn't sperm when you were 30. Trust me on this one. If you are indeed 30 and not some bored 14 year old, which is what you write like you are.
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Default Prepubescent is as prepubescent does

Funny, I would have made the same mistake as Catz, as far as your age goes. If you don't want others making similar mistakes, you might want to steer away from dead-end emotional rhetoric, excessive use of exclaimation points and throwing out sperm-related taunts.
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Hey treat, do you oppose rape and murder? If so, why arent you out there with the other cops fighting it?

Do you oppose forrest fires and arson? If so, why arent you out there risking your life with the other firefighters?
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so I wasn't sperm when you were 30. Trust me on this one. If you are indeed 30 and not some bored 14 year old, which is what you write like you are.
Your calculator needs a new battery. Check your calculation again against the numbers I gave you. LOL!
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Default Yeah, i saw the numbers you gave me

and i find them highly suspect in light of your lack of logical reasoning and basic writing skills.
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Hey treat, do you oppose rape and murder? If so, why arent you out there with the other cops fighting it?

Do you oppose forrest fires and arson? If so, why arent you out there risking your life with the other firefighters?
Something your overlooking.,,, I do not advocate either profession, as they are inherently ***gerous.

I leave it to others to choose their profession. Only thing is, the folks in Iraq
are there by order, not choice.

One other point, I would not avocate something I personally would not do, and only a brief tour of the folks that value the "mission" over the lives of the troops, will clearly show that when these same advocates are asked what the hell they're doing here, and why not join up, the most insipid responses are posted.

There's another point to be made. What you ask about is assumably within my town, state or Country and does involve our saftey, while what I'm talking about is advocating smoeone go half-way around the
World into harms way and is in no way any kind of threat to any American not there.

Lastly, there is a clear difference between the unethical behavior you describe that is assumably not terribly far from a clear and present ***ger, while the behavior I am referring to is not the behavior of the "insurrgents" in Iraq, but eliminating the loss of our troops lives for a conflict that goes back thousands of years, and is based on mutual hatreed between ethnic groups.

I really can't put it any simpler than that. The two situations are not at all analogous, and I have not and do not advocate a policy that would force anyone to be a policeman or Fireman. While on the other hand, your question suggests that there is no compulsion for our troops to have to be their, and their is no duplicity in advocating a compulsion for someone else to be there, when the advocator themself would not even do the same.

In short, the attempted analogy is a vast oversimplification of a host of differences that you appear to have overlooked for those that would advocate someone else should be there, while not suggesting that the advocator of those that are compelled to be there, should not themselves be compelled to be there.
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I leave it to others to choose their profession. Only thing is, the folks in Iraq
are there by order, not choice.
Please post your evidence that anyone in Iraq right now was drafted. This is the first I have heard of it.

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One other point, I would not avocate something I personally would not do, and only a brief tour of the folks that value the "mission" over the lives of the troops, will clearly show that when these same advocates are asked what the hell they're doing here, and why not join up, the most insipid responses are posted.
That applies to Police and Firefighters too. How do we know you'd be willing to join the police force or become a firefighter? If you dont, does that mean you should not be entitled to an opinion on crime or fires?

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There's another point to be made. What you ask about is assumably within my town, state or Country and does involve our saftey, while what I'm talking about is advocating smoeone go half-way around the
World into harms way and is in no way any kind of threat to any American not there.
Not sure where you live, but here in Denver, police officers and fire fighters die every year.

The only variable in your argument seems to be "half way around the world". So if we were asking them to die in, say, Cuba or Mexico that would be ok with you?

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Lastly, there is a clear difference between the unethical behavior you describe that is assumably not terribly far from a clear and present ***ger, while the behavior I am referring to is not the behavior of the "insurrgents" in Iraq, but eliminating the loss of our troops lives for a conflict that goes back thousands of years, and is based on mutual hatreed between ethnic groups.
Ethnic minutia was not our reason for going to war. Our reasons were purely selfish; to prevent a despot from developing weapons of mass destruction that could be used against us (either directly, or by being sold to someone else).

Our secondary motivation was related to democracy and freedom...which is not dependent on any particular ethnic issue.

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I really can't put it any simpler than that. The two situations are not at all analogous
If it makes you feel better to believe that, go right ahead.

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I have not and do not advocate a policy that would force anyone to be a policeman or Fireman.
If you can prove any of those soldiers was forced to join the military, you will have a point. As I said, as far as I know, none of the were conscripted. They all joined the military of their own free will. Just like Cops and Firefighters chose their professions.

The only people on this forum who have advocated a draft are all liberals. I cant think of a single exception.

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In short, the attempted analogy is a vast oversimplification of a host of differences that you appear to have overlooked
Your differences are exaggerated and irrelevant. No soldiers were forced to join the military. They understood the risks when they signed up...just like Cops and Firefighters.
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