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View Poll Results: Which scenerio do you lean towards?
Heaven 5 41.67%
Hell 1 8.33%
Prevail 2 16.67%
Combo Heaven and Prevail (Prevail Optimistic) 3 25.00%
Combo Hell and Prevail (Prevail pessimistic) 1 8.33%
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Old 08-04-2005, 10:58 AM
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Default Radical Evolution

This article raises some interesting points I hadnt heard before, regarding emerging technologies and how they will affect the human race as a whole. Some of these technologies are actually pretty radical.

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One of the things that drives him nuts, for example, is the Australian mouse pox incident. [Researchers] were looking for a form of mouse contraceptive, and they were doing genetic tinkering with the mousepox virus. It doesn't do anything to humans, but it's a close relative to small pox, which does do bad things to humans. They made one small change in the genetic structure in this mousepox virus, and the resulting organism was 100 percent fatal to the mice, no survivors. They all died. Researchers had never seen anything like this before. That just doesn't happen.

It was amazing how bad this change was. Up until then, the conventional wisdom was that if you mess around with a virus genetically, it will always make it weaker. Not in this case. They made it astonishingly bad. And then they published the results on the Internet, where anybody who'd wanted to could look it up and see what they'd done and how they'd done it.

And this just drives Bill Joy nuts. He says, Well, if you handed a million people their own private atomic bomb, do you suppose one of them would be crazy enough to use it?


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humans were destined to kill themselves off. I still think that. We are and have always been our own worst enemy. And that enemy will kill us all.
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We've survived this long.
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Old 08-04-2005, 11:13 AM
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Default It ain't that long!

The Earth is billions of years old. We've been here for a mere blip. And modern civilization has only been here a mere millisecond. The Dinosaurs lived for hundreds of millions of years. We won't make it even a fraction of that long. We will kill ourselves off WAY before that. I would bet not even 500 years. Maybe way less.
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The dinosaurs also did not have the OPTION of destroying themselves. We do. That is why the two situations are not analogous.
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Default The OPTION is why we will do it!

We are too violent, too selfish and too short sighted to have it be otherwise. We will kill ourselves off precisely because we can.
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Whether or not the human species continues to exist depends almost entirely on how soon we are able to colonize other bodies in our solar system.
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We are too violent, too selfish and too short sighted to have it be otherwise. We will kill ourselves off precisely because we can.
I believe you hit the nail on the head, or human in this case. I find humans to be inherently evil and most of the time I am deeply ashamed to be in that species class. I have yet to find any other animal on this planet that kills indiscriminately out of malice.
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We are too violent, too selfish and too short sighted to have it be otherwise. We will kill ourselves off precisely because we can.
While I do see where you are coming from.. I think we will be annhilated by and extraterrestrial race. Mainly for the same reasons that you listed, we are too warlike and too selfish and too emotionally charged.

Consider that there are galaxies billions of years older than ours... Consider that by the most conservatives estimates, most alien species that could possibly be in existance would be (at a minimum) 10,000 years ahead of us.... Consider our meteoric rise in technological capabilities since about mid-WWII.... Consider how most of that technology is either created or used...

Piece all those considerations together and it is easy to see a scenario where we achieved interstellar travel abilities well before we are culturally ready for such a power. It is also easy to assume one or some of those races in question will not look highly on a violent and petty race that spreads virulently.

My own personal "doomsday" scenerio is that we achieve the stars and get exterminated by an alien race that fears us...
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Default That could happen!

But in the end it would be our fault. Knowing what I know about humans and how utterly stupid, selfish and evil we tend to be, if I were an alien race I would certainly kill all the humans before they spread like a virus throughout the solar system. Nothing would be worse than humans leaving Earth.
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