Is the Guru of this forum going to label that as a valid opinion also? Sounds like pure hate and racism in itself.

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Btw, the soldier only recently became an orthodox jew (2 years ago), therefore I doubt he was able to learn the whole talmud.

true, although christianity has some stupid stuff, but i don't know any other religion then jewish which clearly teaches racism. i mean all non jews being "goyim" (animals) all non jewish women being prostitutes...

i cant ever read a lot of it, coz it's just too depressing and hard to swallow, but just adding all the facts that i do know it all makes sense: media is controlled by zionists. 5-6 years ago someone had said that to me i would have reacted exactly as most here react to me now... "racist dork". nope, we are not racist dorks.

Btw, the Talmud is not the Jews' holiest scripture... that might show how much you actually know about the Talmud. The Torah is the Jews holiest scripture and by no means does the Torah preach hate or racism. The Talmud instead is a set of scriptures and COMMENTARY from numerous rabbies for many years. It is not read by everyone.

Really why dont both of you learn a little bit before making falicious statements?

Read this for starters:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud#..._on_the_Talmud
**** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud#Charges_of_racism *****

Another source if you are intersted in actually learning about the Talmud and your acusations:
http://talmud.faithweb.com/

why hasnt the moderator banned this guy yet? everywhere he goes around hijacking topics and spewing his pro zionist propaganda, defending their lies. oh i get it, because the board is run by zionists. well, then i would be out. i guess they just dont care. either way, it's ridiculous, don't pay attention to him everyone. there's a bunch of them here.

Pro Zionist lies? If you dont like those sources, I can find others. Please, why dont you post here to me a list of all the sources which you do not find to be "pro zionist". I will try and stay inline with your guidelines.

I am simply setting straight the arguments you make with FACT and sources. If you need other sources, I will gladly provide them with you. Everything that disagrees with you is pro-Zionist, isn't it?

If you want to make arguments why dont YOU back up your arguments with credible sources? No one like me will argue with you then.

Actually I don't even care, but still you're wrong. Even if it's the second holiest Jewish scripture, it's still an outrage that such a book is the basis of someones world view. I have never encountered so much hate in one book.

The Jewish Talmud


The Talmud is Judaism's holiest book (actually a collection of books). Its authority takes precedence over the Old Testament in Judaism. Evidence of this may be found in the Talmud itself, Erubin 21b (Soncino edition): "My son, be more careful in the observance of the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah (Old Testament)."

The supremacy of the Talmud over the Bible in the Israeli state may also be seen in the case of the black Ethiopian Jews. Ethiopians are very knowledgeable of the Old Testament. However, their religion is so ancient it pre-dates the Scribes' Talmud, of which the Ethiopians have no knowledge. According to the N.Y. Times of Sept. 29, 1992, p.4:

"The problem is that Ethiopian Jewish tradition goes no further than the Bible or Torah; the later Talmud and other commentaries that form the basis of modern traditions never came their way."

Because they are not traffickers in Talmudic tradition, the black Ethiopian Jews are discriminated against and have been forbidden by the Zionists to perform marriages, funerals and other services in the Israeli state.

Rabbi Joseph D. Soloveitchik is regarded as one of the most influential rabbis of the 20th century, the "unchallenged leader" of Orthodox Judaism and the top international authority on halakha (Jewish religious law). Soloveitchik was responsible for instructing and ordaining more than 2,000 rabbis, "an entire generation" of Jewish leadership.

N.Y. Times religion reporter Ari Goldman described the basis of the rabbi's authority:

"Soloveitchik came from a long line of distinguished Talmudic scholars...Until his early 20s, he devoted himself almost exclusively to the study of the Talmud...He came to Yeshiva University's Elchanan Theological Seminary where he remained the pre-eminent teacher in the Talmud...He held the title of Leib Merkin professor of Talmud...sitting with his feet crossed in front of a table bearing an open volume of the Talmud." (N.Y. Times, April 10, 1993, p. 38 ).

Nowhere does Goldman refer to Soloveitchik's knowledge of the Bible as the basis for being one of the leading authorities on Jewish law.

The rabbi's credentials are all predicated upon his mastery of the Talmud. Other studies are clearly secondary. Britain's Jewish Chronicle of March 26, 1993 states that in religious school (yeshiva), Jews are "devoted to the Talmud to the exclusion of everything else."


The Talmud Nullifies the Bible

The Jewish Scribes claim the Talmud is partly a collection of traditions Moses gave them in oral form. These had not yet been written down in Jesus' time. Christ condemned the traditions of the Mishnah (early Talmud) and those who taught it (Scribes and Pharisees), because the Talmud nullifies the teachings of the Holy Bible.

Shmuel Safrai in The Literature of the Sages Part One (p.164), points out that in chapters 4 and 5 of the Talmud's Gittin Tractate, the Talmud nullifies the Biblical teaching concerning money-lending: "Hillel decreed the prozbul for the betterment of the world. The prozbul is a legal fiction which allows debts to be collected after the Sabbatical year and it was Hillel's intention thereby to overcome the fear that money-lenders had of losing their money."

The famous warning of Jesus Christ about the tradition of men that voids Scripture (Mark 7:1-13), is in fact, a direct reference to the Talmud, or more specifically, the forerunner of the first part of it, the Mishnah, which existed in oral form during Christ's lifetime, before being committed to writing. Mark chapter 7, from verse one through thirteen, represents Our Lord's pointed condemnation of the Mishnah.

Unfortunately, due to the abysmal ignorance of our day, the widespread "Judeo-Christian" notion is that the Old Testament is the supreme book of Judaism. But this is not so. The Pharisees teach for doctrine the commandments of rabbis, not God.

The Talmudic commentary on the Bible is their supreme law, and not the Bible itself. That commentary does indeed, as Jesus said, void the laws of God, not uphold them. As students of the Talmud, we know this to be true.

Jewish scholar Hyam Maccoby, in Judaism on Trial, quotes Rabbi Yehiel ben Joseph: "Further, without the Talmud, we would not be able to understand passages in the Bible...God has handed this authority to the sages and tradition is a necessity as well as scripture. The Sages also made enactments of their own...anyone who does not study the Talmud cannot understand Scripture."

There is a tiny Jewish sect which makes considerable effort to eschew Talmud and adhere to the Old Testament alone. These are the Karaites, a group which, historically, has been most hated and severely persecuted by orthodox Jewish rabbinate.

To the Mishnah the rabbis later added the Gemara (rabbinical commentaries). Together these comprise the Talmud. There are two versions, the Jerusalem Talmud and the Babylonian Talmud.

The Babylonian Talmud is regarded as the authoritative version: "The authority of the Babylonian Talmud is also greater than that of the Jerusalem Talmud. In cases of doubt the former is decisive." (R.C. Musaph-Andriesse, From Torah to Kabbalah: A Basic Introduction to the Writings of Judaism, p. 40).

This study is based on the Jewish-authorized Babylonian Talmud. We have published herein the authenticated sayings of the Jewish Talmud. Look them up for yourself.

We publish the following irrefutable documentation in the hope of liberating all people, including Jewish people, from the corrosive delusions and racism of this Talmudic hate literature, which is the manual of Orthodox and Hasidic Jews the world over.

The implementation by Jewish supremacists of Talmudic hate literature has caused untold suffering throughout history and now, in occupied Palestine, it is used as a justification for the mass murder of Palestinian civilians. The Talmud specifically defines all who are not Jews as non-human animals.

In fact the Talmud even encourages deception, among other "virtues".

And where did you get this piece of information?

Please, do not post any link from aljazeera.net, revisionisthistory.org nor radioslam. I dont find them the least credible same as you guys dont find faithweb.com credible. Wiki is acceptable on the web, but unfortunately it is pro-Zionist aswell.

I've seen this Talmud stuff before, some of it is exaggerated, most of it is true. But the truth is the Jewish Talmud is still one of the most hateful books out there. Even the Jewish encyclopedia admits this candidly.

Of course, I'm fully aware of the many interpretations of the Talmud, but fact of the matter is, that the Talmud, just like the Qoran can breed vicious hate against disbelievers.

we hear a lot on media about Palestinian HAMAAS. never once i heard about Israeli intelligence agency MOSSAD. could someone tell me what their logo reads? (hint in bold)

also from few days ago, didnt hear anything about riots (meaning they were media BS propaganda) so i believe palestinians are somewhat reasonable to say the least.oh yea FOX news reports! they report and you decide, or they decide what to report and you make assumptions?