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About LinkBackslol, says the man who's definition of the 14th A is in direct opposition to what the SCOTUS has defined. You don't get to make up your own definitions to US law.Originally Posted by keymanjim
that's why it sucks to be a birther.
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lol, says the man who's definition of the 14th A is in direct opposition to what the SCOTUS has defined. You don't get to make up your own definitions to US law.
that's why it sucks to be a birther.
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Here in the US there are only 2 types of citizens, citizen at birth (NBC) and naturalized (immigration). You are either one or the other. You cannot be in between.
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There are TWO TYPES of born citizens.
'native' via jus soli
'natural' via sanguinis
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
Joseph Goebbels
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not in the US. here in the US, there are only 2 types of citizen. citizen at birth and natualized. that's it. there is no mysterious third type.
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Everyone who grew up in the U.S. knows there are only two types of citizens- natural born- meaning anyone born in the U.S. and naturalized.
Aussie Mike just wasn't fortunate enough to learn this growing up.
The problem with marriage is that we heterosexuals are not honoring marriage sufficiently- not with homosexuals wanting to get married.
Every child a homosexual couples has is a desired child.
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There is also Native Born. Do you disagree?
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native born and natural born are the same thing. there is not three types of citizen in the US.
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Garbage & it's not a theory, the Lord Coke quotes are verbatim........... none of your so-called legal experts have been able to debunk these FACTS that have been shown as found in Calvin's case.
What you have 'watched' is a bunch of disgusting people, so desperate to have their lies perpetuated, that they yelp, bark & attack the messenger like a pack of rabid dogs at any sign of their absurd fantasy-land notions being exposed and proven false.
'torn to shreds'? ................ what a joke!
Last edited by MichaelN; May 31 2011 at 06:42 PM.
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no, native and natural are not the same.
native is not the same as natural.
e.g. native American Indians were not natural born citizens ......... they weren't even citizens, yet they were native born.
e.g. children of visiting ambassadors are native born in US, yet they are natural born, inheriting their parents citizenship.
native is soli
natural is sanguinis
There were plenty of native born people around in the framing era.
So why do you suppose the framers chose 'natural' then, when you say they really meant native?
But they didn't say 'native' did they?
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