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    Default Obama Lawyer Admits B. C. Forgery

    What is important here is what is admitted during the hearing, not the outcome of the hearing itself. The first article is by Dan Crosby of the Daily Pen and reproduced over at The Obama Hustle.

    Obama Lawyer Admits Forgery But Disregards “Image” As Indication Of Obama’s Ineligibility

    4-11-12

    DAMAGE CONTROL: A recent ballot challenge hearing in New Jersey exposes a desperate strategy by Obama to distance himself from his forged certificate and induce the contrived value of his transient political popularity as the only “legitimate qualification” needed to hold the office of the presidency.

    By Dan Crosby of THE DAILY PEN

    NEW YORK, NY – After a Maricopa County law enforcement agency conducted a six-month forensic examination which determined that the image of Obama’s alleged 1961 Certificate of Live Birth posted to a government website in April, 2011 is a digital fabrication and that it did not originate from a genuine paper document, arguments from an Obama eligibility lawyer during a recent New Jersey ballot challenge hearing reveals the image was not only a fabrication, but that it was likely part of a contrived plot by counterfeiters to endow Obama with mere political support while simultaneously making the image intentionally appear absurd and, therefore, invalid as evidence toward proving Obama’s ineligibility in a court of law.

    Taking an audacious and shocking angle against the constitutional eligibility mandate, Obama’s lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Therefore, she argued, it is “irrelevant to his placement on the ballot”.

    Much more with videos at

    http://www.latenightinthemidlands.co...hite-house-web






    First it was the real document, now when exsposed in court the truth comes out it's a fake!! This is very important considering that these lie's are coming from our nations president.


    i think that it should determine his eligability, as this is the evidence HE presented for eligability, now it's found to be fake....Oh well!

    We dont need him getting away with these types of things, over and over...he is NOT above the law!
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    More news coverage...



    http://www.teapartytribune.com/2012/...amage-control/

    "Thursday, April 12, 2012

    NEW YORK, NY - After a Maricopa County law enforcement agency conducted a six-month forensic examination which determined that the image of Obama's alleged 1961 Certificate of Live Birth posted to a government website in April, 2011 is a digital fabrication and that it did not originate from a genuine paper document, arguments from an Obama eligibility lawyer during a recent New Jersey ballot challenge hearing reveals the image was not only a fabrication, but that it was likely part of a contrived plot by counterfeiters to endow Obama with mere political support while simultaneously making the image intentionally appear absurd and, therefore, invalid as evidence toward proving Obama's ineligibility in a court of law.

    Taking an audacious and shocking angle against the constitutional eligibility mandate, Obama's lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama's birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Therefore, she argued, it is "irrelevant to his placement on the ballot".

    Hill went on to contort reasoning by implying that Obama needs only invoke his political popularity, not legal qualifications, in order to be a candidate.

    At the hearing, attorney for the plaintiffs, Mario Apuzzo, correctly argued that Obama, under the Constitution, has to be a "natural born Citizen" and that he has not met his burden of showing that he is eligible to be on the New Jersey primary ballot by showing that he is indeed a "natural born Citizen." He argued that Obama has shown no authenticate evidence to the New Jersey Secretary of State demonstrating who he is and that he was born in the United States. Apuzzo also argued that as a matter of law, Obama is not a "natural born Citizen" because he was born to a father who was not a U.S. citizen.

    As Obama's legal argument becomes more contorted, he is being forced to avoid an ever shrinking legal space, and an increasing weight, of his failure to meet constitutional eligibility requirements.

    Hill, of Genova, Burn & Giantomasi Attorneys in Newark, made a desperate motion to dismiss the ballot objection arguing that Obama's lack of natural-born citizenship status was not relevant to being placed on the New Jersey presidential ballot because no law exists in New Jersey which says that a candidate's appearance on the ballot must be supported by evidence of natural born citizenship status. Only the U.S. constitution restricts eligibility to hold the office of president to natural born citizens."

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    To all those who slammed people for believing in this: Bet you feel pretty stupid now?
    http://www.teapartytribune.com/2012/...amage-control/ "Thursday, April 12, 2012 NEW YORK, NY - After a Maricopa County law enforcement agency conducted a six-month forensic examination which determined that the image of Obama's alleged 1961 Certificate of Live Birth posted to a government website in April, 2011 is a digital fabrication and that it did not originate from a genuine paper document, arguments from an Obama eligibility lawyer during a recent New Jersey ballot challenge hearing reveals the image was not only a fabrication, but that it was likely part of a contrived plot by counterfeiters to endow Obama with mere political support while simultaneously making the image intentionally appear absurd and, therefore, invalid as evidence toward proving Obama's ineligibility in a court of law. Taking an audacious and shocking angle against the constitutional eligibility mandate, Obama's lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama's birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Therefore, she argued, it is "irrelevant to his placement on the ballot". Hill went on to contort reasoning by implying that Obama needs only invoke his political popularity, not legal qualifications, in order to be a candidate. At the hearing, attorney for the plaintiffs, Mario Apuzzo, correctly argued that Obama, under the Constitution, has to be a "natural born Citizen" and that he has not met his burden of showing that he is eligible to be on the New Jersey primary ballot by showing that he is indeed a "natural born Citizen." He argued that Obama has shown no authenticate evidence to the New Jersey Secretary of State demonstrating who he is and that he was born in the United States. Apuzzo also argued that as a matter of law, Obama is not a "natural born Citizen" because he was born to a father who was not a U.S. citizen. As Obama's legal argument becomes more contorted, he is being forced to avoid an ever shrinking legal space, and an increasing weight, of his failure to meet constitutional eligibility requirements. Hill, of Genova, Burn & Giantomasi Attorneys in Newark, made a desperate motion to dismiss the ballot objection arguing that Obama's lack of natural-born citizenship status was not relevant to being placed on the New Jersey presidential ballot because no law exists in New Jersey which says that a candidate's appearance on the ballot must be supported by evidence of natural born citizenship status. Only the U.S. constitution restricts eligibility to hold the office of president to natural born citizens." Click the link to read the rest. To all those who slammed people for believing in this: Bet you feel pretty stupid now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel Power View Post
    Is there a video of this attorney admitting the BC image is a forgery?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yguy View Post
    Is there a video of this attorney admitting the BC image is a forgery?
    No... not even close.

    This is just more bull(*)(*)(*)(*) from that idiot birther lawyer Apuzzo.

    I listened to about 3 minutes of video.

    The OP is a flat-out lie. The dead giveaway is the shocking lack of actual quotes by the lawyer even while they present 3 hours worth of video of the hearing.

    So she never said anything like what the op contends that she said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel Power View Post
    What is important here is what is admitted during the hearing, not the outcome of the hearing itself. The first article is by Dan Crosby of the Daily Pen and reproduced over at The Obama Hustle.

    Obama Lawyer Admits Forgery But Disregards “Image” As Indication Of Obama’s Ineligibility

    4-11-12

    DAMAGE CONTROL: A recent ballot challenge hearing in New Jersey exposes a desperate strategy by Obama to distance himself from his forged certificate and induce the contrived value of his transient political popularity as the only “legitimate qualification” needed to hold the office of the presidency.

    By Dan Crosby of THE DAILY PEN

    NEW YORK, NY – After a Maricopa County law enforcement agency conducted a six-month forensic examination which determined that the image of Obama’s alleged 1961 Certificate of Live Birth posted to a government website in April, 2011 is a digital fabrication and that it did not originate from a genuine paper document, arguments from an Obama eligibility lawyer during a recent New Jersey ballot challenge hearing reveals the image was not only a fabrication, but that it was likely part of a contrived plot by counterfeiters to endow Obama with mere political support while simultaneously making the image intentionally appear absurd and, therefore, invalid as evidence toward proving Obama’s ineligibility in a court of law.

    Taking an audacious and shocking angle against the constitutional eligibility mandate, Obama’s lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Therefore, she argued, it is “irrelevant to his placement on the ballot”.

    Much more with videos at

    http://www.latenightinthemidlands.co...hite-house-web

    First it was the real document, now when exsposed in court the truth comes out it's a fake!! This is very important considering that these lie's are coming from our nations president.


    i think that it should determine his eligability, as this is the evidence HE presented for eligability, now it's found to be fake....Oh well!

    We dont need him getting away with these types of things, over and over...he is NOT above the law!
    Just more birther disinformation. Can you provide the complete quote of her saying this?

    I know you can't because she never says anything close to that.

    Just more birther lies and desperation.

    “Social Security has nothing to do with the deficit. Social Security is totally funded by the payroll tax levied on employers and employees. If you reduce the outgo of Social Security, that money would not go into the General Fund to reduce the deficit, that would go into the Social Security Trust Fund. So Social Security has nothing to do with balancing the budget or lowering the deficit.” –Ronald Reagan

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    Every do the birther bigot bop. Lol

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    When will we see the lawyer admitting the BC is a fake? Or does this require special 3-D glasses only available to the intellectually elite?

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    Here is the only part you probably need to see:



    It's clear that this was another legal smackdown for the birthers.

    Obama's lawyer's points:

    1) The IMAGE of the document is not valid for authentication purposes so the birthers' attempts to declare the ACTUAL DOCUMENT a "forgery" based on a digital image from the internet.

    2) She isn't presenting a BC because it's not relevant to the case.

    2) Obama doesn't have to produce a birth certificate because it's not required legally and she isn't presenting the BC. The birthers have not produced verified contrary evidence.

    The Judge: You can't argue that a document is forged if the document hasn't been presented to the NJ Secretary of State.

    Note: The judge blocks the case and leaves the decision to the Secretary of State.


    More birther lawyer incompetence folks. Nothing to see here.
    Last edited by toddwv; Apr 15 2012 at 11:53 AM.

    “Social Security has nothing to do with the deficit. Social Security is totally funded by the payroll tax levied on employers and employees. If you reduce the outgo of Social Security, that money would not go into the General Fund to reduce the deficit, that would go into the Social Security Trust Fund. So Social Security has nothing to do with balancing the budget or lowering the deficit.” –Ronald Reagan

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    Quote Originally Posted by yguy View Post
    Is there a video of this attorney admitting the BC image is a forgery?
    Right...if you don't see a video of the court proceedings then it can't be true. Duh...many times cameras are not allowed in court and even you would have to admit that it would be very stupid on Obamas part to allow videos.

    This is a far stretch by his attorney, a very far stretch and now all that need happen is for the information to go viral. He's popular, I'll give him that, but very few people like or trust a liar. We have to be able to trust our president, and this one lacks trust.
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    What is important here is what is admitted during the hearing, not the outcome of the hearing itself. The first article is by Dan Crosby of the Daily Pen and reproduced over at The Obama Hustle.

    Obama Lawyer Admits Forgery But Disregards “Image” As Indication Of Obama’s Ineligibility

    Read more.......

    http://www.latenightinthemidlands.co...hite-house-web

    The author is nothing more than another clown doing the birther bigot bop.

    PS,,, this is not a personal attack on another member
    Last edited by johnnymo; Apr 15 2012 at 12:43 PM.

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