“Social Security has nothing to do with the deficit. Social Security is totally funded by the payroll tax levied on employers and employees. If you reduce the outgo of Social Security, that money would not go into the General Fund to reduce the deficit, that would go into the Social Security Trust Fund. So Social Security has nothing to do with balancing the budget or lowering the deficit.” –Ronald Reagan
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The problem with marriage is that we heterosexuals are not honoring marriage sufficiently- not with homosexuals wanting to get married.
Every child a homosexual couples has is a desired child.
heres a new shift in the paradigm, a guy at woodman's blog (Slartibartfast) says:
July 30, 2012 at 3:23 pm
The official record is not in a vault–it’s on a hard drive (plus other secure backup, I assume). In other words, the official record is data not a document. If you disagree with my methodology then explain how it is incorrect–otherwise I have described how one can arrive at the estimate of 0% empirically. What you or anyone else feels about it is of no significance whatsoever. Science isn’t about who proposed a theory or what others think about it–it’s about whether or not the theory is logically correct and stands up to an experiment with the potential to falsify it.
i'm not sure if this means there is no certificate, or there was one. i thought there was an original in the book and perhaps on microfilm.
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what do you think of this ??
you know, i listened to the gillar mara zebest tom harrison and john woodman debate and i don't think woodman overwhelmed anybody. i think woodman has been won over. his website is protected with snarky obots and he edits my comments like kevin davidson did before he banned me.
no foul langauge, just limited speech (overmoderated).
i would post this on woodman's forum, cause he's become sort of a friend, but he said wouldn't post anything with "obot" in it. now why is this army of obots trying to control the discussion ?? even flash mobbing on amazon to ridicule birtherbooks.
why do they get so dramatically nasty when people dig into the "president's" past... that's always been the big red flag for me.
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Here is an ironic twist the the "birther" debate. Let's assume for a moment that Obama's birth was never recorded with the Hawaii Dept of Health and there wasn't a birth certificate. Let's assume that Obama's citizenship had to be established in a Court of Law.
We have Gov. Neil Abercrombie of Hawaii that knew the Obama family when Barack was born and, while he didn't visit the hospital he would testify that they were living in Hawaii when Barack was born.
We have the former nurse at the hospital that CNN located and she distinctly remembers with Barack was born. He was the only black infant in the nursery as there weren't many blacks in Hawaii at that time.
We have two published accounts of Barack Obama being born that include the Obama home address on Kalanianaole Highway.
We have historical testimony from his grandmother where she explicitly stated he was born in Hawaii.
All of this and absolutely no evidence that he was born anywhere else.
Any court, based upon this evidence alone, would rule that Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural born citizen of the United States.
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