Thread: White's and Racism in America

Originally Posted by leftysergeant

We've been over this crap before. There is no way that any civilization could exist where more than half the population are mentally retarded.

Of course it could. A fair number of Africans have IQs above 100. And most of them can learn to read. Why couldn't they have a simple civilization?

http://sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/04/26/9530.aspx

Originally Posted by DMZ

American Racism=The systematic subordination of members of targeted racial groups who have relatively little social power in the United States (Blacks, Latinos, Asians), by the members of the agent racial group who have relatively more social power (Whites).

By this definition, if a white person were murdered simply for being white, it could not be considered a racist act.

Which is clearly wrong. Where did you get this definition from?

Originally Posted by DMZ

The school systems also say that “emphasizing individualism as opposed to a more collective ideology” is a form of “cultural racism.”

I believe US school systems are relatively independent and I doubt they say the same things about racism. Which school system are you getting this partial quote from because it really needs wider context to be properly understood?

Originally Posted by DMZ

Ok, so I get 7k for bing Asian on my FASFA, and my white friend only got 2k. My Teaches even sead I would get more money FOR JUST bing Asian.

Not something I knew anything about so I had to look this up (their website is a mess BTW) but I'm fairly certain this is not true - the common position seems to be that FASFA involves no questions about race/ethnicity. I'd be happy to be corrected on that by official statements but not "what you teacher said".

Originally Posted by DMZ

White Americans are not being accepted into the college of their dreams because a less qualified minority has taken their place. I can say im less qualified.

I'm entirely against any form of "positive discrimination". Your earlier accusations go much deeper than that though.

Originally Posted by DMZ

So why is America slacked against whites, and why is it a curse to be white? In the so called white America when where not like that any more.

I'm not convinced it is. There are some imbalanced which came about as a reaction to decades of extreme social and legal discrimination against non-whites. There can be a tendency for such things to swing too far in the opposite direction before returning to a steady middle.

On faction in those exaggerated swings in public attitude and political policy is misinformation and misunderstanding which is why it is vitally important that you base your opinions on confirmed facts rather than hearsay and speculation.

Originally Posted by mikemikev

Of course it could. A fair number of Africans have IQs above 100. And most of them can learn to read. Why couldn't they have a simple civilization?

The civilizations of Mali, Ghana and Senegal were not that "simple" compared to most of Europe at the same point of development after the introduction of agriculture. One of the factors delaying the development of complex civilizations in Africa was the difficulty in establishing a good agricultural base with plants available and suitable for cultivation in the climate ofthe region. It was probably not until the introduction of bananas, plantains and yams from Asia that there was a reliable food supply.

That really retards any material development.

Artisticly, Africa did not lag far behind the more northerly European peoples. This is not possible in a retarded society.

I guess this is the right thread to ask : Why you are keeping racial statistics on everything ? and to extend it a bit : Why race plays so important role in what wanna be an industrial society ?

Originally Posted by Akula

http://sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/04/26/9530.aspx

Neither of these references prove that intelligence is entirely hereditary.

That the first lists the average IQ for Ethiopia as 63 and that of Tanzania in the low 70s shows that it is worthless to your argument.

Originally Posted by DMZ

American Racism=The systematic subordination of members of targeted racial groups who have relatively little social power in the United States (Blacks, Latinos, Asians), by the members of the agent racial group who have relatively more social power (Whites).

By this definition, if a white person were murdered simply for being white, it could not be considered a racist act.

The school systems also say that “emphasizing individualism as opposed to a more collective ideology” is a form of “cultural racism.” In other words, if you believe that group privileges should not be placed above the rights of individuals, you are a racist. The only way not to be a racist is to embrace a “collective ideology,” which throughout history has been better known as communism or socialism.

I’m sure if you asked the teachers in places like Seattle whether they were indoctrinating their students, they would deny it adamantly. But all you need to do is read their definition of racism to see how they’re steering students into their preferred ideology. Individualism is bad. Collectivism is good. Only whites can be racist.

I'm not white for one, im Asian. Lived in xinjiang province tell I was 13 and moved to the USA.

Ok, so I get 7k for bing Asian on my FASFA, and my white friend only got 2k. My Teaches even sead I would get more money FOR JUST bing Asian.

His parents make around each 45k , my parents each make 60k+. Its not right that the government is gird against middle class white family's.

I would like to wright a book on this and maby it would carry more weight sens im not white.

White Americans are not being accepted into the college of their dreams because a less qualified minority has taken their place. I can say im less qualified.

Why should I get more points on a entrance test for just being Asian??

So why is America slacked against whites, and why is it a curse to be white? In the so called white America when where not like that any more.

Your opinions, thoughts, or personal attacks against me?

First off, good first post. You've touched upon something that liberals in this country pretend doesn't exist : racism against whites by minorities. They allege that, since whites are still the majority, any racism practiced by the minorities is not actually racism, because minorities do not hold a position of power over whites. However, when you factor in the amount of self-loathing whites who would gladly sell out their race in order to gain votes by minorities, regular white people are, indeed, in the minority.

I disagree with you about your college point, though. As an Asian, you are actually more discriminated against in the education system than whites are (see the below graphic). Since Asians represent such a high percentage of the student population, the powers that be decided that they wanted less of you to succeed, and more blacks and Mexicans. To accomplish this, they lower their requirements and standards in order to be "fair", but what they are really doing is pumping out less and less qualified people into the work force. It really is no wonder why our society is falling apart.



Sickening, isn't it? A black student with a 3.40 and a 24 on his MCAT has a higher chance of getting into Med school than an Asian student with a 3.7 and a 32 on the MCAT. When you select your doctor, pick an Asian or a white doctor. They worked harder to get where they are.

Whites and Asians do better in school and tend to work harder than blacks and Mexicans. So what? That just means blacks and Mexicans should step up their game in order to compete. Nobody seems to mind that blacks dominate certain sports like basketball. The tallest, most athletic person in basketball makes the team, as it should be. It makes the sport better for everyone. Who cares if the 5'6 white guy doesn't make the cut? The same should apply in academics. Let the smartest people get access to the best schools, and then become more marketable in the work force. The world will be better off because of it.

Originally Posted by leftysergeant

Balderdash. The aim is to destroy the power of the privilleged groups to continue suppression of the outcaste.

Nobody is calling for the death of the creative classes. We are just saying that they should not be allowed to exclude others for insane and arbitrary reasons from the mainstream of society. If there is a young black accountant or doctor or whatever available for a job, I do not want to hear some dimwitted cracker complaining that he can't get a job just because he is white. If all we wanted was a black president, Jesse Jackson would have been in the White House long ago.

Totally unproven bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

Interesting your use of the term "creative classes." And just who belongs to those "creative classes?"

Jesse Jackson was fairly scandal ridden, but I think for the white lefties Jesse was just too "black" for them. Obama, who as Biden said, was "articulate," was a far better choice. Even though he had zero experience in... well, anything (I don't think we've ever elected someone as little qualified as Obama). I've noticed that white lefties and hipsters, for all of their pretend non racism, don't live near, or socialize with black people. They try to live in as white a world as the cast of Friends. But Obama was white enough for you guys to feel comfortable, but black enough for you to flaunt your non racist credentials "See? I'm voting for the Bl- African American guy! whoo hoo!"

Jackson, as director of PUSH for decades, actually had more executive experience, but he made you guys clutch your purses and man purses tighter. With Obama, you felt like you could set your man purse down on the coffee table.

Originally Posted by DMZ

American Racism=The systematic subordination of members of targeted racial groups who have relatively little social power in the United States (Blacks, Latinos, Asians), by the members of the agent racial group who have relatively more social power (Whites).

By this definition, if a white person were murdered simply for being white, it could not be considered a racist act.

The school systems also say that “emphasizing individualism as opposed to a more collective ideology” is a form of “cultural racism.” In other words, if you believe that group privileges should not be placed above the rights of individuals, you are a racist. The only way not to be a racist is to embrace a “collective ideology,” which throughout history has been better known as communism or socialism.

I’m sure if you asked the teachers in places like Seattle whether they were indoctrinating their students, they would deny it adamantly. But all you need to do is read their definition of racism to see how they’re steering students into their preferred ideology. Individualism is bad. Collectivism is good. Only whites can be racist.

I'm not white for one, im Asian. Lived in xinjiang province tell I was 13 and moved to the USA.

Ok, so I get 7k for bing Asian on my FASFA, and my white friend only got 2k. My Teaches even sead I would get more money FOR JUST bing Asian.

His parents make around each 45k , my parents each make 60k+. Its not right that the government is gird against middle class white family's.

I would like to wright a book on this and maby it would carry more weight sens im not white.

White Americans are not being accepted into the college of their dreams because a less qualified minority has taken their place. I can say im less qualified.

Why should I get more points on a entrance test for just being Asian??

So why is America slacked against whites, and why is it a curse to be white? In the so called white America when where not like that any more.

Your opinions, thoughts, or personal attacks against me?

I wouldn't worry about Whites. Asians are far more discriminated against in College admissions than any other ethnic group in the country. In fact, I'm surprised it's gone on for so long. I guess until Asians start getting mad about it it's going to continue/

Originally Posted by Lil Mike

I wouldn't worry about Whites. Asians are far more discriminated against in College admissions than any other ethnic group in the country. In fact, I'm surprised it's gone on for so long. I guess until Asians start getting mad about it it's going to continue/

Yep. Liberals are taking advantage of the passive nature of Asians and whites, knowing that they will most likely do nothing in response. Blacks and Hispanics, though? They know that if they don't give them what they want, large scale riots will break out.