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Old 06-20-2009, 11:01 AM
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Labour have been in power for so long because there was no real alternatives. If any of the remixed conservative shadow cabinets (the Vulcan, the vague etc.) had actually won an election I shudder to think where we'd all be, certainly an outsider in Europe being affected by their trade laws but with no say in them. I don't much fancy our chances with Cameron considering the only real life experience he has is running a PR company. More spin is the last thing Britain needs. Gordon Brown isn't the most polished performer but that is kind of what I like about him. Does anyone think any Government can change a global crisis such as the economic downturn? Some can even argue deregulation under Thatcher would always have lead to this here conclusion.

Also Britain doesn't have a presidential system and the PM as such isn't decided by the people in some popularity contest although his constituents could alone decide his fate as we all know before an election who'd be the PM of either party after it. By the same token he also doesn't have a direct mandate; he can only push through policy by convincing his own party he is right therefore it doesn't matter who the PM is, only what kind of characters make up the government as a whole. How do we know the policy is set by the PM anyway? It isn’t so people should stop being so naive about changing one man to change their fortunes.
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After all the hooplah now the Brits are asking us to liberate them.
Sorry.........could you explain this comment?
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It is a bit like the blues, all this political BS and spin was invented in America - its just that the British have perfected it.
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Obama is worshipped by most, and even those who dont are glad George is no longer our president.

The term of George came to an end, and another election occured. George won again, but not without critics all over the globe, eventually making him the most unpopular president for some time.

The world went neurotic over Obama, and now America feels optimistic and generally better than before, due to the massive Obama initiative. Obama won the election.
You believe too much of what the media feeds you. There are MANY people in the U.S. who respect and admire George Bush. And MANY more who are deeply concerned for our future under Barack Obama. We're just not as vocal as the bashers.

Generalizing like you've done here is a terrible way to try and open a discussion. How do we know you're not overly generalizing about the situation in the UK too?
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