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Sat Apr 25, 5:04 am ET

SYDNEY (AFP) – A boat carrying more than 50 refugees was intercepted on Saturday off Australia's coast, little more than a week after an explosion on another vessel killed five people, the government said.

The boat carrying 54 passengers and two crew was stopped in international waters by border patrol officers following a tip-off from an oil rig, said Home Affairs Minister Bob Debus.

Those on board were taken onto a navy ship, he said in a statement.

The vessel was intercepted about 900 kilometres (560 miles) north of Darwin city near Ashmore Island, the site of a blast on board a people-smuggling vessel on April 16 which killed five Afghans and injured dozens more.

Saturday's vessel was the eighth to be intercepted off Australia or to have made landfall since January, carrying hundreds of refugees from the subcontinent and Afghanistan.

The ethnicity of the most recent arrivals was not immediately known.

Debus has warned of "thousands" of illegal immigrants waiting in Indonesia for passage to Australia, with a boat carrying 32 Sri Lankan refugees stopped near the northwest coast on Thursday.

Canberra had dispatched a delegation to Malaysia and Sri Lanka for high-level talks on tackling the issue at the country of origin, according to local reports.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090425...jn1rNRwTpvaA8F
Just pray for those poor blokes. Pray they weren't sent to the Guantanamo Bay Annex on Christmas Island.

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By Mike Head
13 May 2005

A series of revelations in recent days has exposed the systemic and deliberate abuse of democratic rights taking place in Australia’s immigration detention centres under the mandatory imprisonment regime that was first imposed by a Labor government in 1992.

The leaks, media reports and official admissions have undermined the Howard government’s attempts to whitewash the case of Cornelia Rau, an Australian resident wrongly locked up and denied medical treatment for 10 months. While the government continues to portray Rau’s ordeal as a rare aberration in an otherwise healthy system, it is now clear that Rau’s plight is just the tip of an iceberg that has yet to fully emerge.

The horrors uncovered so far, after years of cover-up, include the wrongful incarceration of large numbers of people, the deportation of innocent citizens, and the denial of elementary medical and psychiatric care to obviously-ill detainees. They also include the cruel and inhumane punishment of inmates in isolation cells and the refusal to allow an infant child, locked up since birth, to attend an outside childcare centre for even a few hours a week.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/may2005/imm-m13.shtml
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I thought these folks were refugees not Al Queda Fighters. I wonder if this joint will make into the travel brochures? A Hot spot on Expedia maybe?

Notice the beautiful Penitentiary like setting and the barbed wire to make sure the "refugees" don't accidentally wander off. The electrified fences are sure a nice touch.

Geez if this is how they treat their Asylum Seeking Immigrants, I'd sure hate to be a Terrorist Detainee. Oh by the way the facility opened at the end of 2008. Look for it on Travelocity!
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I wonder if they accept Air Miles.

I bet Aboriginal Australians wish they'd thought of a lock up like this when the first Europeans started illegally immigrating.
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I wonder if they accept Air Miles.

I bet Aboriginal Australians wish they'd thought of a lock up like this when the first Europeans started illegally immigrating.
Doug read this...

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January 2001 Volume 7 Number 1
Australia: New Zealand, Detention

Detention. The Woomera Detention Center in South Australia is managed for immigration authorities by a private firm, Australasian Correctional Management. In December 2000, ACM's management of the detention center came under fire, with critics charging that there were a variety of abuses of detained asylum seekers. An investigation into allegations that a young boy was abused by his father in a sex-for-cigarettes trade did not find any evidence of abuse. Despite the findings, Ruddock may recommend that mothers and children be moved out of Woomera and housed in the township. There is a continuing investigation by the Australian government into allegations of violence and sexual assault in immigrant detention centers.

Immigration Minister Ruddock said on December 7 that detainees at immigration detention centers, including Woomera, were making home-made weapons to threaten the staff and the staff is responding with harsh measures. Amnesty International charged that a three-year old boy was put in leg restraints and later kept in a suicide-proof cell without windows, toilet or shower for 13 days.

Ruddock maintains that detention centers are appropriate facilities for processing and housing unlawful arrivals and emphasized that Australia is second only to Canada in resettling refugees on a per capita basis.

Some of the more than 50 hunger-striking detainees at Woomera were involuntarily placed on intravenous feedings. Ruddock says it did not constitute forced feeding, because he did not want to be held responsible for a preventable death at the detention camp.

http://migration.ucdavis.edu/mn/more.php?id=2291_0_5_0
You can't even blame this on 9/11 fear, look at the date of the article. A three year old in restraints? These folks were refugees, not terrorists. Where was the World Community outrage then?
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Some of the more than 50 hunger-striking detainees at Woomera were involuntarily placed on intravenous feedings. Ruddock says it did not constitute forced feeding, because he did not want to be held responsible for a preventable death at the detention camp.
Is it just me or does this guy not know what the hell he's talking about?

Aussies explain yourselves!

Btw the most 'shocking' part of this whole sorry mess is the electric fences. When did Australia get electricity?
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You can't even blame this on 9/11 fear, look at the date of the article. A three year old in restraints? These folks were refugees, not terrorists. Where was the World Community outrage then?
Sounds like reports from the superdome after Katrina.
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We lock up and treat our immigrants like (*)(*)(*)(*). It's so when they do become australians there filled with hate and turn to crime. Why? 'Well they took ourrr jeeeerwbs!!!'
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Just pray for those poor blokes. Pray they weren't sent to the Guantanamo Bay Annex on Christmas Island.
That is just ignorant.

These are people who have attempted to enter Australian territory illegally. Many, sometimes all, after being detailed for that illegal entry (either through legitimate capture or sabotaging, as has been the case before, their vessel so Australian vessels have to rescue them and bring them into Australian waters) have claimed refugee/asylum status.

Those that don't are processed and shipped back to their country of origin. Those that have claimed refugee or asylum status are also processed. They are taken to a detaining facility where they are given living conditions in accordance with international law.

At this facility they stay, as their details given are processed, details forged are inspected and details not given are attempted to be found in order to provide clarification that they are indeed from a certain nation, are leaving for a certain reason and are indeed legitimate refugees or asylum seekers, per international law.

If they are not found to meet the basic criteria for the status, they are shipped back home.

If they are found to meet the requirements, they are given refugee or asylum status and allowed into Australia. They leave the detention centre.

Those that are found to not meet the criteria are allowed the legal right to appeal. This is the only reason many so-called "refugees" and "asylum seekers" have remained in the detention center for years.

Not because they like having them there, as they would rather ship them home.

It is because they are given the right to appeal their case and continue to do so despite being repeatedly found to not meet the criteria. As such they are given the legal right to remain in the facility until they either win their appeal or they no longer can appeal.

After which these illegal immigrants, who are not refugees or asylum seekers (as we allow, in fact have done many times, allow legitimate ones into the nation), are shipped to their original country of origin.
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It's amazing that people actually want to come over here, the immigrants/refugees are treated like garbage. The Rau case was a shocker that should never have happened, and it took months for the Howard government to issue an apology, only after they were pushed.

Lets not mention the travesty surrounding Dr. Mohamed Haneef, shall we?

Howard should be up on charges for that one.
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It's amazing that people actually want to come over here, the immigrants/refugees are treated like garbage. The Rau case was a shocker that should never have happened, and it took months for the Howard government to issue an apology, only after they were pushed.

Lets not mention the travesty surrounding Dr. Mohamed Haneef, shall we?

Howard should be up on charges for that one.
Interesting case Makedde. All laws will eventually be misapplied to innocent people. That's why there are safeguards to prevent abuses by the police and government. When those safeguards are removed in the name of protecting citizens from terrorists it's innocent people who'll also suffer.
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Interesting case Makedde. All laws will eventually be misapplied to innocent people. That's why there are safeguards to prevent abuses by the police and government. When those safeguards are removed in the name of protecting citizens from terrorists it's innocent people who'll also suffer.
I'm just glad we had a large enough portion of politicians and judges who rallied to his side, rather than just media outrage and nothing actually getting done.

Otherwise it might have been even worse.
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