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Old 06-29-2008, 07:41 AM
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Martin Luther King Junior High School in East St. Louis, Missouri. Please God; You'd be the only one who would care to do anything about it.
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Martin Luther King Junior High School in East St. Louis, Missouri. Please God; You'd be the only one who would care to do anything about it.
Consider it done. I drafted the initial contact letter last night.
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I have opportunities because they are available to me.
Some people don't know how to make sacrifices or that it is even possible and are unaware of how to take advantage of what opportunities they may have. They are undereducated and kept ignorant.
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How exactly do you expect a 6 year old to understand the value of an education and how to obtain an education when it is not properly put forth? We're talking elementary and middle schools having these issues. Of course high schools too, but at this point they are so far behind that they might as well still be in grade school.

This options that you speak of can only be considered if an individual is taught to consider them.
Maybe not a six-year old, but at that age you can't really learn very much anyway. Once you get to be a little bit older, you can understand why an education is important to success. It also helps that every school in the nation constantly pushes that fact down every students throat from kindergarten on.
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Old 06-29-2008, 09:33 AM
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Martin Luther King Junior High School in East St. Louis, Missouri. Please God; You'd be the only one who would care to do anything about it.

Just got back research from my staff. Martin Luther King Junior High School in East St. Louis does not exist.

They did find a reference where a school by that name, in that area, was used as an example of the disparity of education between black and white neighborhoods in a book written in 1989, Savage Inequalities, by Si Kozol. That story has been promulgated all over the Internet ever since. But, they were not able to prove that it actually ever existed, or that, if it did, when it was closed.

If you have any more information, please forward it to me.
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Maybe not a six-year old, but at that age you can't really learn very much anyway. Once you get to be a little bit older, you can understand why an education is important to success. It also helps that every school in the nation constantly pushes that fact down every students throat from kindergarten on.
Mmmmm -- let me guess ..... you're a student, right?

It isn't the 6 year old that has to be taught; it's the parents. If parents don't understand, or don't know, or don't care, about the educational opportunities available for their children, there is no hope for those children. That is one of the prime contributors to the circle of poverty from generation to generation. When it's all you know, it's all you know.
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Wealth redistribution might counteract the oppressive labor system that's been seemingly set into stone.
Oppressive Labor system? This oppressive labor system has given Americans the highest standard of living in the world.
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That is their fault.

Anybody can get educated and become enlightened.
That's easy for you to say. It isn't so easy for people who are never taught to do just that. Where did you learn that? You picked it up somewhere along the way. These things aren't emphasized in a classroom where there are barely even historical studies, which some would argue is supposed to be taught there. They aren't getting the priorities done; how are kids supposed to learn such valuable knowledge? They don't from their parents because their parents are products of the same (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up education system.
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Maybe not a six-year old, but at that age you can't really learn very much anyway. Once you get to be a little bit older, you can understand why an education is important to success. It also helps that every school in the nation constantly pushes that fact down every students throat from kindergarten on.
At six years old children are developing their cognition. They learn A LOT at that age. People learn their whole lives. At six, they are learning what is right and wrong and how to problem solve.

When you get older you can learn why education is important but you have to learn it, meaning it has to be taught to you or the behavior (a thirst for education) must be positively reinforced by experiences.

That's my problem. Every school in the nation does not do this. The ones that don't have teachers that are paid less than others in towns just adjacent to them. That's IF they have teachers. Many of these schools will hire permanent substitutes because it's cheaper.
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Just got back research from my staff. Martin Luther King Junior High School in East St. Louis does not exist.

They did find a reference where a school by that name, in that area, was used as an example of the disparity of education between black and white neighborhoods in a book written in 1989, Savage Inequalities, by Si Kozol. That story has been promulgated all over the Internet ever since. But, they were not able to prove that it actually ever existed, or that, if it did, when it was closed.

If you have any more information, please forward it to me.
Wow you really did your homework. I really admire that. The school did exist but I know nothing beyond that. I should have checked my sources before I posted. If you're interested, I can find many other schools in Chicago and New York that exhibit the same problems. From now on, I'll use these schools as examples. Thanks a whole lot.
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