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Old 10-17-2005, 06:10 AM
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as mentioned before, is not useful in those situations so it is NEVER warranted. Also,the people who are skilled in the art of extracting information from people ( whether husbands, children OR enemy combatants) know that the most effective method is to make people TRUST. Most people have stories they want to tell. The men who interrogated Japanese prisoners during W.W.2 were successful when they knew as much as possible about Japanese culture and language and they befriended these prisoners. Many gave up "actionable intelligence", unwittingly.

What has occurred (is occurring?) in Iraq is just plain sick.
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Well, I think we can assume that by all men he meant men and women.
ummm...why exactly do you think we can assume that?

I mean...women couldnt own land right? They couldnt vote, right? Would it be safe to assume then that the men of that time did not consider them equals?

What leads you to believe that when they said "all men" they meant women too?

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This is a very common grammatical things.
It is NOW. Who says it was back then?

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Manking means women and men.
So did they mean all minorities too? If not, why?

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And I read and hear all the time in books and such from the 15th century on to this point people everywhere treating the word men as meaning both sexes.
Good for you. You are not the final interpreter though. You dont get to define what they "really" meant.
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