The Us is an empire. Why? look what happened at Iraq and Afghanistan. the US supposedly sets up an indepepndant government, but what it really is doing is creating a holding on another continent. Later, in world war 3, which is sure to happen, the US government will ask for troops and money, and the "liberated" countries will be forced to oblige. Why forced? To keep up their appearance to the world. Therefore, the US is creating a place to look for when their in trouble.

liberation my ass

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exactly, that proves that the US is not an empire. They are independant governments that do not have to do what we tell them to.

the last person to control a continent was Ghengis Khan, Hitler and Napoleon, and even they didnt really do that 100%

no its not. There isnt a single shread of evidence to that. Crime, war, genocide, and murder are going down everywhere all over the world each year. Contries are becoming closer and closer, focusing on economics than military desires. We're in a new age, the world is entering a new pax romana.

troops and money from whom? We get our troops and money from american citizens. The Iraqi and Afghany armies only fight to defend themselves.

I dont even know what this phrase means.

no they dont have to do what we tell them to do, but they do feel obliged to.
Isaid get a holding on another continent, not hold a continent. do you really think there will ever be peace in the world? Human nature is a vicious animal that is intent upon killing. If it were otherwise, there would be no more wars. Therefore, just the existance of humanity proves that a third world war will occur.

The part you did not understand was not clear. My fault. this is what I meant to say: The iraqis and afgans are forced to do as the US asks them just to look nice to the rest of the world. And partly to "repay" the US.

Therefore, "liberating" these countries is actually creating a place the US can ask for help.
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obliged does not equate to an empire, period. Many countries are obliged to do many things for many other countries, none of them are empires.

ok, then yes, that is one of the results of our actions. so what? big deal? why the focus on it?

no, but we can come close.

2005 had the lowest rate of crime and war since the 2nd world war. Clearly, human conflict is decreasing each year. its obvious, and if you look at history of the world, its very clear.

Will there be 100% peace, of course not. But there are less and less conflicts in the world as more and more countries have become closer and closer.

They arent forced to do anything. They can do whatever they want. Concerning "looking nice to the rest of the world," I dont know what you're talking about. Thats never the issue. They have bigger concerns that looking nice to the world.

First, these countries are actually liberated from opressive tyrants and their people now have the abilities to choose how they want to live their lives and run their countries. So we are liberating them.

Second, what possible help could they give us? What can they do for us that we cant, aside from speaking arabic. In fact, the whole world hates us even more as a result of the two (more tha 2nd) invasions.

If humans are by nature inclined toward war then why do humans hate war so much? If given the choice between war and just about anything, people will choose the latter. People fight wars because they have to or because they feel they have to. As the prosperity of the world increases the prospects for war decrease. We're far from world peace, but the world is more peaceful than it has been in millenia. The existance of humans does not automatically imply the continuance of war, much less another world war- especially since no one has anything to gain from nuclear holocaust.

Yeah, throughout history Empires are well known for establishing independent democratic governments.

Please post yopur proof that these governemnts are under the direct control of the US.

If you cannot, then your statement is wrong.

Appearence for what?

In any event, it is their choice. No one is holding a gun to their heads...they do what we want because it is in. Or do you think we would invade them if they dont do what we want?

They did not have that option before. Therefore, yes, they have been liberated. They now have choices where they had none before.

You are saying that holding a gun to someone's head is the same as guilting them into doing what you want. No, they are not the same thing.

Eventually, yeah. Would you rather be living 50 years ago? 100? 500? Yeah, things are getting better, not worse.

No, it proves a war will occur, not necessarily a world war.

And wars do not necessarily involve killing. We managed to defeat the Soviets on an economic level, without attacking them.

No, they are not forced...they CHOOSE to do so because it is in their best interest.

For example, I pay my bills every month. I am not forced to do so...I do so because I want to maintain my credit. But it is up to me...I could stop paying them at any time if I really wanted.

Installing dictators is a far more efficient way to accomplish that...after all, then there is no chance of the masses saying "no", right?

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I dont think it is accurate to suggest that our age is anything but the bloodiest that has ever been on our planet.

And people fight, yes JavaBlack, because they have to, or feel they have to, but they also fight, and have fought throughout millenia, because they want to, or convince themselves that they might be better off if they did. People fight for resources, for wealth, for control of these two. People also fight for vengeance, and always have done.

The psychology of our species is such that it that lurks much closer to outright will-to-slaughter than a kind and decent soul like yourself might suspect. The violence and fury latent in our species can be set-off at the most delicate urging or impulse.

I would that it was otherwise...

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nawbut, the fact remains that war and crime are decreasing every year, its getting better.

I very much hope that you are right!

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It does. There was a statistical report on war and crime several months ago that concluded war and crime rates are the lowest since WWII and decreasing each year.