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Old 12-01-2005, 08:41 PM
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Sorry but if your definition of revising history is something other than revising history, I suppose you need a new dictionary.
Well mabye you should stop going to the wikipedia well for all your "knowledge" as it appear it has run dry. . .

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Because I do not make claims about alternate viws of history, I must say it is very difficult to pin me as a historical revisionist.
See you are altering what you say now when the history of your remarks says the opposite. . .obviously you have it in your blood. .. .

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Since when is PC's purpose to destroy Christianity? Only a paranoid schitzoid could come to such a conclusion.
Only a delusional fool would ask such a question when I clearly stated no such concept exists in the Scriptures. . . .and since it doesn't not exist in Scriptures, to force someone to practice a belief contrary to their beliefs would require that person to compromise their religious beliefs to incorporate PC. . .it should have been a simple concept to understand but since you needed spoon feeding my intital assessment of your lack of intelligence was 100% accurate. . . .
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:45 PM
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Monarchist have been on the downfall since Alexander Hamilton, theirs always the Green Party. Tell me Shame Artist Gar do you cry when someone throws a piece of paper on the ground? Do you feel guilty every time your standing in a wooden house because of the holocaust of trees that had to be cut to use it?
See another subintelligent response. . .since I have clearly stated that I am not a "liberal" . . .but since your limited intelligence cannot compute that the world is not divided into liberal and conservative. .. you are spiraling into an endless loop. . . .but what else would I expect from a mindless conserative drone. ..
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Old 12-01-2005, 09:58 PM
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Well mabye you should stop going to the wikipedia well for all your "knowledge" as it appear it has run dry. . .
You are obsessed with the Wikipedia thing.

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See you are altering what you say now when the history of your remarks says the opposite. . .obviously you have it in your blood. .. .
Interesting. The only line I have that gives any personal statement about history is claiming reluctantly that you are more correct than Danarhea. Are you disagreeing with that? Sure. Whatever. I'll just keep on revising history then and you just keep on going with your revision of all reality.


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Only a delusional fool would ask such a question when I clearly stated no such concept exists in the Scriptures. . . .and since it doesn't not exist in Scriptures, to force someone to practice a belief contrary to their beliefs would require that person to compromise their religious beliefs to incorporate PC. . .it should have been a simple concept to understand but since you needed spoon feeding my intital assessment of your lack of intelligence was 100% accurate. . . .
Uh huh... And since no democratic republic is explicitly mentioned in the scriptures, does that mean we should cast it aside? Oh yeah, I'm starting to get your point. Since God founded America, even the framers of the Constitution are an abomination of the country, since much of what is in the Constitution is not in the scriptures. How silly of me to not get that right away. I must have thought you weren't a complete nutjob.
If you want theocracy, move to the Middle East. I don't like PC in that it creates insincerity, allows people like you to pretend to be victims, and undermines real liberal causes, and it's annoying on top of that. But I'll take it over your dreams of authoritarian rule anyday. At least I can have my own thoughts while living in a PC world (just wouldn't be able to speak them without adding 12 disclaimers). There is no real freedom in your backward ideals. And to think, I thought you were simply saying that the founders acted on religious principles. To you, they were the start of a descent from God. If you don't like freedom, there are plenty of other country's for you.
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Old 12-02-2005, 08:03 AM
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You are obsessed with the Wikipedia thing.
Yeah. . .it is part of my "Just Say 'No' To Stupidity. . . . Wikipedia Breeds Stupidity!" Campaign. . .hey I think I will make that into an image. . .

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Interesting. The only line I have that gives any personal statement about history is claiming reluctantly that you are more correct than Danarhea. Are you disagreeing with that? Sure. Whatever. I'll just keep on revising history then and you just keep on going with your revision of all reality.
What is "interesting" is given the definition of revisonist history you are not even smart enough to find your revionism when I speficially pointed it out to you previously. . . .

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Uh huh... And since no democratic republic is explicitly mentioned in the scriptures, does that mean we should cast it aside?
I would be certainly happy for you to show me the term "democratic republic" prior to the 1900's. . . . and certainly since profeesing Christian kings put their boots and subjects on the ground in America. . .the laws of Christians rule. . .whether you accept that or not. . .

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If you want theocracy, move to the Middle East.
Another subintelligent repsonse since Islam is not a subset of Christianity or vice versa. . just a heads up. . .

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I don't like PC in that it creates insincerity, allows people like you to pretend to be victims, and undermines real liberal causes, and it's annoying on top of that. But I'll take it over your dreams of authoritarian rule anyday.
See another subintelligent response since you practice PC whether you admit it or not and then at then end you say you would chose PC or my religion anyway. . .

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Sorry I didn't catch you right away. I'm sleep-deprived. Some of us work and go to school rather than spending our days using corruption in institutions as an excuse to not attempt to achieve. When I try to read too fast... well you know, I mistook you for a person who was only one standard deviation from the mainstream mean rather than all the way off in the margins. Now that I understand you, perhaps we can discuss this in a manner that involves debate rather than drawing pictures and casting insults (at least we should use blanketed insults that require the other to think a bit to understand).
But our conversation hasn't been a complete waste. Let's see. What things hold true even after my further understanding of your destructionist rather than constructionist viewpoint.
1. You are an elitist. This is implicit in your tone and explicit in your desire to treat your group as privelaged over others.
2. You're still wrong about PC's point being to destroy Christianity. It's point is to make people take others into consideration. Whether or not it actually meets one of these points is irrelevant when talking about intention (unless you are a revisionist).
3. You are way to obsessed with the Wikipedia thing. Rocky posted one thread from it and you suddenly flip out as if this is the main source of info for everyone but you. I've personally done little more than look up a few things about HP Lovecraft and 50s rock n' roll bands on Wikipedia.
4. You are excessively backward-looking and do not truly believe in free thought or innovation. In fact, this is truer than I understood before I reread your propaganda.

Where I got mixed up was in thinking you were just an excessively simplistic and ignorant version of a constructionist.
The debate in this country is usually as follows:
Conservatives: maintain the freedoms of the people as stated in the Constitution, altering only things of high merit (ie the removal of slavery- No conservative I know of supports slavery).
Liberal- Expand on the rights implied by the founders using the very rationale of our rights. Unlike most conservatives, liberals find heavy significance in the part of the Constitution stating that we have more rights that are not listed.

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Shammism: the founders of this country went too far in establishing rights. We should be a theocracy without human rights other than those a religion dictates should be allowed (except free will and personal choice).

Thank you for expanding the debate. You have helped me and possibly others to see that conservatives and liberals have more in common than in difference. We both believe in the freedoms established in this country and are proud to be a part of the freest society on Earth.
So thankfully your little fringe group will never accomplish anything, so feel free to continue pretending it is because everyone else is dumb. Maybe some day when your parents kick you out you'll see the need to look beyond your own mental box.
And by the way, you do not speak for all Christians... or even most of them. And you certainly don't speak for America.
You may not be a Moslem, but I think your general mentality is more congruent to that of the Saudi monarchy's. Perhaps you should convert.
Of course we're all hoping it won't be long before that mentality is displaced by democracy in the Middle East as well. But don't worry. Not in your lifetime.
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I believe his name is really just short for "This is a sham, a load of garbage." That pretty much summarizes his theocratic ideology.
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In The Lord of the Rings, were'nt you an Orc?

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Now that I understand you, perhaps we can discuss this in a manner that involves debate rather than drawing pictures and casting insults (at least we should use blanketed insults that require the other to think a bit to understand).
Oh "we" must me "me" since you continue throughout your post to do what "we" shouldn't do. . .hahahaha

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But our conversation hasn't been a complete waste. Let's see. What things hold true even after my further understanding of your destructionist rather than constructionist viewpoint.
another one of speculations. . .next time bring proof.. . .

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1. You are an elitist. This is implicit in your tone and explicit in your desire to treat your group as privelaged over others.
Oh that is funny coming from an elistist who promotes PC which is foreign to Christainity. . .

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2. You're still wrong about PC's point being to destroy Christianity. It's point is to make people take others into consideration. Whether or not it actually meets one of these points is irrelevant when talking about intention (unless you are a revisionist).
more specualtion on you part. . . try to brings some fact for a change. . . .
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3. You are way to obsessed with the Wikipedia thing. Rocky posted one thread from it and you suddenly flip out as if this is the main source of info for everyone but you. I've personally done little more than look up a few things about HP Lovecraft and 50s rock n' roll bands on Wikipedia.
Oh but you said you enjoy ignoring facts by your own admission. . .which is the very nature of wikipedia. .. the home of stupid people who would rather ingore facts then have validated facts. . . .

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4. You are excessively backward-looking and do not truly believe in free thought or innovation. In fact, this is truer than I understood before I reread your propaganda.
again unproven as it is your culture/thinking that is taking us backwards with the claim of forward progress. . . .
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You add to this a new perspective:
Shammism: the founders of this country went too far in establishing rights. We should be a theocracy without human rights other than those a religion dictates should be allowed (except free will and personal choice).
hahahaha obviously your lack of knowedge of the Scriptures along with poor reading/comprehension skills have produced said "Shammism". . . .

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And by the way, you do not speak for all Christians... or even most of them. And you certainly don't speak for America.
Too true since according to the Scriptures. ..there are many deceivers claiming to be Christians and few real Christians. . . .you can tell the real Christians since their speech is hated by the PC Nazis . .must be why you don't like the posts. . .

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You may not be a Moslem, but I think your general mentality is more congruent to that of the Saudi monarchy's. Perhaps you should convert. Of course we're all hoping it won't be long before that mentality is displaced by democracy in the Middle East as well. But don't worry. Not in your lifetime.
hahahahaha nice confession that your lack of basic knoweldge of muslims and Christians enables you to engage in a productive conversation . . . .
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